Put it down already

[Mike Cavanaugh]

Hi, talking about putting down, which are your methods? Which do you think is the most humain?

Thank you and sorry for hijack ur post

Freezing. Most believe it is the most humane way to put a reptile down. This too has been its own subject of threads many times over. There is a few ways to do it but the most commonly practiced by both breeders and veterinarians is freezing.

100% agree.

I also this the practice (that's getting more widespread) of egg cutting isn't right.

Getting out of the egg is part of the animals natural development process, it helps provide them with strength they will need further down the line.

Now even newbie breeders think egg cutting, purely to find out whats in there, is perfectly normal. Sometimes I think people completely lose sight of the fact that breeding animals is you being allowed to participate and observe a natural process. They really do just see their animals as egg machines

I remember seeing pictures of a very, very well respected US breeders collection some years back (probably circa '99-00). one of his spiders was a corkscrewing trainwreck

Now his is where it gets a little complicated.

Egg cutting. I don't see any problems with it. It has no negative effect on the babies as long as it is done correctly and at the right time. In my opinion the right time is once the first eggs pip, any that still haven't piped the next day get cut. If the baby is deformed when the cut is done then back to my origional point.

Spiders. Wobbling is a trait of the morph period. There has been MANY threads on this so lets try not to get too hung up on it in this post. A wobbbling spider eats, drinks, reproduces, and lives just fine all by itself. Its strange behavior is simply what a spider does. Bottom line is, if you have a spider it wobbles, corkscrews, whatever you want to call it. If your spider does not have the wobbles then either you haven't had it long enough, or you don't know what to look for. IMHO the spider morph should not be considered a deformity for the purposes of this discussion.