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    Re: Whale Wars.

    I feel bad for the whales, but those people do a awful job at stopping the whalers. They pretty much drive around them crying. They need better equipment or its a waste of time for them to be out there.
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by henry View Post
    I feel bad for the whales, but those people do a awful job at stopping the whalers. They pretty much drive around them crying. They need better equipment or its a waste of time for them to be out there.
    its a great show and i disagree with whale hunting but come on the crew from the steve irwin just chase them and cry...and when the japs retaliate they get angry...they need better equipment and tactics....
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    I hate shows like that... sorry but I do. Shows like that over dramatise everything to the point of just making me mad. I'm a animal lover too, but I eat meat. Not to meantion most of the "activists" are closer to "terrorists" are that show is going to keep on running and making money for the big name "animal" groups some of who want to take away our rights to own pets. Now these are just my opinions and you don't have to accept them or even agree with them... I'm getting off my soap box now... Sorry.
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    I think the saddest episode was when they showed them killing the whale.
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    Sea Shepherd should be shut down and/or sunk. They claim to be pirates. They operate under a pirate flag. I think in one episode they even jumped on a Japanese boat and then got mad when they were treated rough. And I think last night they actually rammed a ship. They always say how the Japanese are endangering their lives but they don't consider the fact that they are endangering Japanese lives when they throw things, lay fouler lines and ram ships. I may not agree with whaling in a sanctuary, but I seriously disgree with SS methods. Seriously, if the Japanese can whale in a sanctuary because of a vague law, then try and get the law changed. I also have to question Sea Shepherds resolve. They always claim how they will "die to save the whales" but as soon as they get close to danger everybody starts whining about being unsafe, and dangerous, blah, blah, blah. They are weak. I think the only one who might die to save a whale is Paul Watson, and that is because he has been talking poo for so many years that he has no choice. You could also say he is not willing to die for a whale because he's still alive after all these years. Another example is the pilot. In the episode where he filmed them shooting the whale. If he truly is willing to die to save the whales then he could have easily kamikazed his helicopter in to the boat and saved several whales lives. But I also think it the near future someone will, because I'm suprised the Japanese haven't shot that harpoon through those inflatable boats. That shows alot of restraint on their parts. And the Japanese also have rifles on their boats. Basically, as stated earlier, Sea Shepherd claims to be pirates, which basically puts them in the same classification as Somali pirates and Malaysian pirates and they should be treated as such, period. And for those of you who think the Japanese are evil. those are just people trying to make a living. trying to pay the bills, trying to put kids through college...
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    Sea Shepherd should be shut down and/or sunk. They claim to be pirates. They operate under a pirate flag. I think in one episode they even jumped on a Japanese boat and then got mad when they were treated rough. And I think last night they actually rammed a ship. They always say how the Japanese are endangering their lives but they don't consider the fact that they are endangering Japanese lives when they throw things, lay fouler lines and ram ships. I may not agree with whaling in a sanctuary, but I seriously disgree with SS methods. Seriously, if the Japanese can whale in a sanctuary because of a vague law, then try and get the law changed. I also have to question Sea Shepherds resolve. They always claim how they will "die to save the whales" but as soon as they get close to danger everybody starts whining about being unsafe, and dangerous, blah, blah, blah. They are weak. I think the only one who might die to save a whale is Paul Watson, and that is because he has been talking poo for so many years that he has no choice. You could also say he is not willing to die for a whale because he's still alive after all these years. Another example is the pilot. In the episode where he filmed them shooting the whale. If he truly is willing to die to save the whales then he could have easily kamikazed his helicopter in to the boat and saved several whales lives. But I also think it the near future someone will, because I'm suprised the Japanese haven't shot that harpoon through those inflatable boats. That shows alot of restraint on their parts. And the Japanese also have rifles on their boats. Basically, as stated earlier, Sea Shepherd claims to be pirates, which basically puts them in the same classification as Somali pirates and Malaysian pirates and they should be treated as such, period. And for those of you who think the Japanese are evil. those are just people trying to make a living. trying to pay the bills, trying to put kids through college...
    What they're doing is not trying to pay the bills, I mean it is but they're not doing it for the reasons they say, that is a proven fact. They are doing whatever they can to stop them from killing whales, some people would do the same or similiar measures to protect every hobby.
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    The japanese claim to be within the laws, and technically they are. They claim to study the whales they kill, and if they take measurements and readings and bits to check for testing, then they are fullfilling their part of the bargain of "killing whales for research". Then what? You'd prefer they pitch the dead whale over board?

    The japanese actually do test the whale bodies a lot, mainly for safety concerns like mercury levels, and ages and reproduction so that they know about the sustainability of whale stocks.

    If the terrorists want the whaling to stop, they should get the loopholes in the laws changed. But let's face it, whales are in essance large cows that live in the ocean. The japanese consider them a food item, not a giant special mystical being. They are animals, same as our dogs, cows, deer, or bears. Big animals that happen to live in the ocean.

    If the numbers of whales are high enough, then the whaling commission puts a quota of the number of whales that can be killed. Sea Shepard wants to rush out and scream that THEIR opinions matter more than all the rest of the world that has set up the whaling commission and agreed to abide by their laws. Not only that, but they then use terrorist activies to further their goals, then actually whine and go all emo when someone dares to give them any retaliation for their own aggressive terrorism.

    Personally, I think the japanese should have shot them for real, instead of the big fake shooting the sea shepard put on for the cameras. Pirates are shot on the high seas.

    Whale Wars is just PETA fanatics being emo and whiney and trying to tell the entire world that THEIR opinion should matter more than all the rest of us. What next? Will you cheer and support Sea Shepard when they show up throwing blood and acid at cattle ranchers, saying that cows have every right to live their lives without being killed for beef? Why not? It's exactly the same thing, and they can use almost every argument against cattle ranchers as they do for japanese whalers.. but then, US Ranchers WOULD shoot them, and the emo whiners wouldn't risk that.

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    Re: Whale Wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
    The japanese claim to be within the laws, and technically they are. They claim to study the whales they kill, and if they take measurements and readings and bits to check for testing, then they are fullfilling their part of the bargain of "killing whales for research". Then what? You'd prefer they pitch the dead whale over board?

    The japanese actually do test the whale bodies a lot, mainly for safety concerns like mercury levels, and ages and reproduction so that they know about the sustainability of whale stocks.

    If the terrorists want the whaling to stop, they should get the loopholes in the laws changed. But let's face it, whales are in essance large cows that live in the ocean. The japanese consider them a food item, not a giant special mystical being. They are animals, same as our dogs, cows, deer, or bears. Big animals that happen to live in the ocean.

    If the numbers of whales are high enough, then the whaling commission puts a quota of the number of whales that can be killed. Sea Shepard wants to rush out and scream that THEIR opinions matter more than all the rest of the world that has set up the whaling commission and agreed to abide by their laws. Not only that, but they then use terrorist activies to further their goals, then actually whine and go all emo when someone dares to give them any retaliation for their own aggressive terrorism.

    Personally, I think the japanese should have shot them for real, instead of the big fake shooting the sea shepard put on for the cameras. Pirates are shot on the high seas.

    Whale Wars is just PETA fanatics being emo and whiney and trying to tell the entire world that THEIR opinion should matter more than all the rest of us. What next? Will you cheer and support Sea Shepard when they show up throwing blood and acid at cattle ranchers, saying that cows have every right to live their lives without being killed for beef? Why not? It's exactly the same thing, and they can use almost every argument against cattle ranchers as they do for japanese whalers.. but then, US Ranchers WOULD shoot them, and the emo whiners wouldn't risk that.

    My $0.02, not that I have strong feelings against the PETA POS emo whiney babys or anything.
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    Spent? You mean I spent those two pennies?? Jeez. I thought I'd just loan them out for the interest. *kicks a clod of dirt*.
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    Re: Whale Wars.

    I personally like the show and agree with the sea shepards. Yes they use crazy tactics, yes I hate PETA and the HSUS but honestly the whalers shouldn't be whaling. If there were more whales sure I wouldn't have a problem. Its the fact that not to long ago whales were close to extinction and still today they are endangered. Add in the fact that these animals are slow growing, long lived, and have a slow reproductive cycle the whalers could really have a big impact on the population(even if they are hunting only so many whales a year). And to be honest the sea shepards are doing good job at there cause. Their main goal isn't to completely stop the whalers themselves, its to get attention to there cause and if people here, on the news, and around the world are talking about it then they are doing a good job.

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