I had a very good friend in high school that I lost touch with and I actually ran into him in a walmart a couple months back and we started talking and he told me he had gotten into snakes also and wanted me to come check out his collection. Well I drove over there and his tanks and everything were very clean and they all looked very heatlhy except everyones temps were WAY off. He was not heating them right but he thought they were getting enough heat. He never gets on the net or goes to shows so he didnt know about flexwatt and rhp. So I got him some heat tape and went back and fixed up all his cages and he bought a couple thermostats and now everyone is happy. Sometimes its just tough love you just got to tell them and sometimes they honestly dont know they are doing anything wrong.