Spinnerblast X Pewter

[Deano]

I have a few female pewters that I am planning to breed when they reach breedable size, I'm looking into purchasing a new male this coming season and I like the look and genetics of a spinnerblast (Pastel, Spider, Pinstripe) or bumblebee pinstripe. Does anybody know what this pairing would produce? Many thanks

[JayCee]

3.125% WT
3.125% Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Pastel,
6.25% Het. Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstriped,
6.25% Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider,
3.125% Het. Spider, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider, Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Het. Spider, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstripe,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon

[matt71915]

i dont even want to attempt to write out the outcomes. The previouss post isnt right, you cant have a het spider or het pinstripe

[LGL]

i dont even want to attempt to write out the outcomes. The previouss post isnt right, you cant have a het spider or het pinstripe

I think what they were meaning is the "Heterozygous form of Spider", "Heterozygous form of Pastel", (Pastel is a visual Het for Super Pastel), "Homozygous form of Pastel" (Super Pastel), etc.

I'll try to write out the outcomes. Give me a second.

[Wh00h0069]

i dont even want to attempt to write out the outcomes. The previouss post isnt right, you cant have a het spider or het pinstripe

Yes, a het spider is a non super form of a spider and a het pinstripe is a non super form of a pinstripe.

[Jyson]

3.125% WT
3.125% Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Pastel,
6.25% Het. Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstriped,
6.25% Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider,
3.125% Het. Spider, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider, Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Het. Spider, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstripe,
6.25% Het. Spider, Het. Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel, Het. Cinnamon,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe,
3.125% Het. Spider, Homozygous Pastel, Het. Pinstripe, Het. Cinnamon

No such thing as het pastels, het spiders, or het cinnies.
Pewter X Spinner Blast =
Spiders
Spinners
Pastels
Super Pastels
Pinstripes
Lemon Blasts
Killer Blasts
Cinnies
Pewters
Sterlings
Spider pewters
Spider Cinnies
Cinnapins
Pewter Pins
Pewter Spins
Sterling Spins
Bumble Bee
Spinner Blasts
Killerbee pins
Normals
..I don't think I missed any, I have no idea of the odds, but those are the possibilities that pairing will have.

[Wh00h0069]

No such thing as het pastels, het spiders, or het cinnies.

Actually there are. The problem is that most ball python breeders do not call them that. A het pastel, heterozygous pastel, is het for a homozygous pastel, which is what most ball python breeders call a super pastel. Super is just a name that ball python breeders coined for the homozygous form of co dominant mutations.

[LGL]

Spinnerblast (Pastel Spider Pinstripe) x Pewter (Pastel Cinnamon):
Each egg will have the following chance of being the following morph/combination of morphs

1/32 (3.125%) Normal
1/32 (3.125%) Pinstripe
1/32 (3.125%) Spider
1/32 (3.125%) Cinnamon
1/16 (6.25%) Pastel

1/32 (3.125%) Spinner (Spider Pinstripe)
1/32 (3.125%) Cinnabee (Cinnamon Spider)
1/32 (3.125%) Cinnamon Pinstripe
1/16 (6.25%) Bumblebee (Pastel Spider)
1/16 (6.25%) Lemon Blast (Pastel Pinstripe)
1/16 (6.25%) Pewter (Pastel Cinnamon)
1/32 (3.125%) Super Pastel

1/32 (3.125%) Cinnamon Spinner (Cinnamon Spider Pinstripe)
1/16 (6.25%) Pewter Bee (Pastel Cinnamon Spider)
1/16 (6.25%) Spinner Blast (Pastel Spider Pinstripe)
1/16 (6.25%) Cinnamon Blast (Pastel Pinstripe Cinnamon)
1/32 (3.125%) Sterling (Super Pastel Cinnamon)
1/32 (3.125%) Killerbee (Super Pastel Spider)
1/32 (3.125%) Super Blast (Super Pastel Pinstripe)

1/32 (3.125%) Sterling Bee (Super Pastel Cinnamon Spider)
1/32 (3.125%) Sterling Blast (Super Pastel Cinnamon Pinstripe)
1/32 (3.125%) Super Spinner Blast (Super Pastel Spider Pinstripe)
1/16 (6.25%) Pewter Spinner (Pastel Cinnamon Spider Pinstripe)

1/32 (3.125%) Sterling Spinner (Super Pastel Cinnamon Spider Pinstripe)


There you go. It's sectioned off based on how many genes it has (1-5).

[Jyson]

Actually there are. The problem is that most ball python breeders do not call them that. A het pastel, heterozygous pastel, is het for a homozygous pastel, which is what most ball python breeders call a super pastel. Super is just a name that ball python breeders coined for the homozygous form of co dominant mutations.

Yes, but what I meant was that there is no such thing as a het FOR pastel.

[LGL]

Actually there are. The problem is that most ball python breeders do not call them that. A het pastel, heterozygous pastel, is het for a homozygous pastel, which is what most ball python breeders call a super pastel. Super is just a name that ball python breeders coined for the homozygous form of co dominant mutations.

I understand what you are saying. I didn't catch it in my earlier post, but the correct term would be "Het Super Pastel" because a Pastel is the Heterozygous form of the gene (Super Pastel). Take Ivory for instance. Some people lable Yellowbellies as "Yellowbelly-Het Ivory".