Wow. That's all that I can say, in reading this thread. I sincerely hope that, if any non-herp people are reading this.. that you understand, that us snake keepers with scruples do not condone freezing baby mammals to death.. or releasing livestock (which is what feeder rats/mice really are..) out into the wild because we are too lazy and irresponsible to either look after them, humanely euthanize them, or return them to the store from which they came. Enough said; if I go on, I will either be preaching to the choir of other humane feeders, or talking to brick walls.