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    Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    I understand the calculations for basic genetic combinations but I'm having trouble with some of the more complex pairings. If you know how, can you please post a walk through on how to calculate the expected outcomes of complex pairings - such as:

    Pewter x Spider =

    12.5% Normal
    12.5% Spider
    12.5% Pastel
    12.5% Cinny
    12.5% Bee (Pastel Spider)
    12.5% Pewter (Pastel Cinny)
    12.5% Cinnabee (Cinny Spider)
    12.5% Pewter Bee (Pastel Cinny Spider)

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    The posted outcomes are correct.... What is it that you are having difficulties with exactly?

    The percentages or the actual end result offspring morphs/combos?
    1.0: Honey Bee | Lesser | Banana Pastel Enchi | Clown 66% Het Albino
    0.1: Kingpin | x2 Mojave | Super Pastel HGW | Albino | Sterling Mojave Pinstripe | GHI Pewter | Pastel Het Clown | Sable 66% Het Clown

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    I just copied those stats from another post: I would like to understand how to come up with them on my own. How do i set up a matrix or something that shows all the % outcomes. I'm fine with the morph combos but Im having a hard time thinking about the pairings with so many outcomes so I would like to make a matrix where i can break it all down.

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    I don't know if this will help or not, but NERD has a great section on Genetics here:

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_intro.html

    After reading the intro, there are links to Simple Recessive Genetics 101, Double Recessive Genetics 201, and Co-Dominant/Dominant Genetics 301.

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    A really easy way to do it is to look at the odds of each mutation individually and then just multiply them

    Spider, Pastel and Cinny are all co-dom, the odds of any one of those genes being passed on is 1 in 2 = 50% = 1/2. So, since we are looking at 3 loci, you have odds of (1/2)(1/2)(1/2) = 1/8 = 12.5%
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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    http://www.geneticswizard.com/ This website might be of some help, you type in the morphs of the male and female and it will calculate the outcomes , you'll have to be a little specific with it though.

    Combo morphs are best broken down when using it so you dont get confused.

    ex. Bumble Bee would be entered as Spider and Pastel
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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    Learn Punnet squares, and it will allow you to work everything out.

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    Alright I got it...

    Last edited by ChadOwens; 08-01-2009 at 12:53 AM.

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    hmmm... can't get that chart to line up right how do you use the chart function???

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    Re: Complex Genetics walk through? - Please

    Hi,

    I made a post on the table function a little while ago that might help.

    How you make it tidy however I have no clue.

    This is what I get when I try to put yours into what I think is the correct forum code.



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    Last edited by dr del; 08-01-2009 at 12:43 PM. Reason: trying to tidy up table
    Derek

    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

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