UPDATE: HR2811 Amendment

[redpython]

i am going to take wild guess and say that the burmese pythons taking over the everglades and the populations there are overflated.

Even if burmese pythons are reproducing, laying eggs, and eggs are hatching, there are still major adversities of surviving life for them.

They just don't hatch out of the egg and eat all of the native wildlife...they also provide a food source to many predators that live there.

maybe it's there, but are they just going to ban the importation of burms and af. rocks?

[Mendel's Balls]

i am going to take wild guess and say that the burmese pythons taking over the everglades and the populations there are overflated.

Even if burmese pythons are reproducing, laying eggs, and eggs are hatching, there are still major adversities of surviving life for them.

They just don't hatch out of the egg and eat all of the native wildlife...they also provide a food source to many predators that live there.

maybe it's there, but are they just going to ban the importation of burms and af. rocks?

You probably right about the Burmese Problem being over-hyped.....

Here's a interesting quote form the Barkers on a review they had of a Letter published in the journal Science:

"The paper (letter) ends with the dire warning that the cost of invasive species to the United States is $120 billion annually. Smith et al. are surely quite aware that it is plant species and accidental pest imports that account for all but a tiny fraction of that figure. Terrestrial vertebrate animals legally identified, declared and imported are not the real problem, but they are the primary concern of animal-rights activists."


I will point out something the quote doesn't bring up--the fact that terrestrial vertebrates often do act as vectors for the spread of pests such as ticks.....that's why I asked about the importation practices earlier and if they have changed at all.

[JandDReptiles]

REPTILESmag on twitter posted this link!

http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...mendments.aspx

-Jeremy

[Mendel's Balls]

REPTILESmag on twitter posted this link!

http://www.reptilechannel.com/reptil...mendments.aspx

-Jeremy

From the link above:

".....the bill would bypass the statuary listing process included in the Lacey Act, according to the Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council (PIJAC). That process requires the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to conduct a risk analysis and seek public comment before listing a species as “injurious.” The Fish and Wildlife Service is currently conducting such an analysis, PIJAC reports.

PIJAC warned concerned pet owners that the legislation, if passed as written, would set a dangerous precedent of adding controversial species to the Lacey Act without hearings and sufficient study. That precedent could affect owners of other pets, including birds, fish and turtles, PIJAC reported."

That the crux of the problem with this legislation.....legal precedent following the precautionary principle.

[twistedtails]

So let me see here. Correct me if I'm wrong. This means no burmese or rock python sales or anything anymore??

[Mendel's Balls]

So let me see here. Correct me if I'm wrong. This means no burmese or rock python sales or anything anymore??

The bill has not even been voted on by the full house yet. It's out of committee.

[twistedtails]

The bill has not even been voted on by the full house yet. It's out of committee.

When does the house vote?

[JandDReptiles]

When does the house vote?

not until September... at the earliest.




This doesn't spell the end of the Burm or Af. Rock right now. It won't until the President puts his OBAMA on it...hehe. That will be a WHILE from now. In the article it states that USARK is going to work on ammending the bill further to only ban the importation of WC Burms and Af. Rocks. We shall see where it goes from here....


-Jeremy