I need help with squares....

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i was just using it so P=Pastel n= normal. instead of doing it P for normal and p for pastel. instead of a captial of a P for normal i just used an N because ... why not. thats what it stands for...

if it was a super spider it would just be SS so its spider and spider genes. Sn would be Spider and Normal. (plain spider)

and you use PS for completely normal? I dont see why you wouldnt just use N's that way you dont have to deal with the same letter that your shortening the morph to..

with your square, what would something like ppSs or Ppss be, since arent the lower cases the ones that show up on the snake. super pastel with a spider gene that would be PP (two pastel genes) then S... PPS. a super pastel with a spider het? i think im right about the het there... but then again i could be wrong.

Actually, it might be confusing at first, but blueapplepaste is doing the square the way it normally is done. That’s not to say that using “n” wouldn’t work. I understand why it seems easier. If the normal allele that pairs with a mutant pastel allele is normal, why not just use “n?” It’s not standard, but it can be done if it doesn’t confuse you. We would usually use P for normal allele opposite a pastel (p) mutant allele because that’s just the standard punnett method.

What you need to remember is that each bee has a possibility of throwing (we’ll use n) sp, sn, pn, or nn. That gives you a possibility of 16 outcomes in a 4 x 4 square. At this point I would not bank on anything that results in ss. In blueapplepaste’s example, a ppsS would, as you said, be a super pastel het spider. Since spider is considered in the herp world as dominant, this means ppsS is going to be a killer bee.