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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    I have always fed in the cage without any issues....

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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    If being fed in the familar environment of his own enclosure made him be a more confident hunter then that's excellent! Just the kind of response I want from my snakes when they are fed in their own homes especially on live prey.

    As far as the other, I never make a judgement call on any animal's behaviour from a single incident. Patterns are what leads me to make a conclusion about something but that's just me perhaps.
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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    I have always fed in their cage and never had any aggresion issues. Even if my guys are in shed they still stay pretty calm

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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Hapa_Haole View Post
    Classical conditioning can definitely occur after only one pairing of the US (unconditioned stimulus-feeding response to prey item) and the CS (conditioned stimulus-opening the tank to handle/clean/etc.). But if that's true for snakes who knows...

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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    This makes about as much sense to me as this: if you blow up a balloon it will expand but if you don't it could but may not....
    roflmao! i agree



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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    You are asserting that after one feeding in his enclosure he became aggressive?

    Have you gotten him an application to the snake version of MENSA? You should.
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    I know I am excited when the food comes..Sometimes I even bite my hand accidentally while shoveling food in. Don't hate on the snakes for being hungry...
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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Hapa_Haole View Post
    Classical conditioning can definitely occur after only one pairing of the US (unconditioned stimulus-feeding response to prey item) and the CS (conditioned stimulus-opening the tank to handle/clean/etc.). But if that's true for snakes who knows...

    Dennis
    Snakes do not have the intelligence for the conditioning laws to apply.

    You are giving your snake WAY too much credit. He's hungry, move up a prey size.

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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Snakes do not have the intelligence for the conditioning laws to apply.

    You are giving your snake WAY too much credit. He's hungry, move up a prey size.
    I disagree. Flatworms such as as planaria can be trained with electrical shock. They are far lower on a developemental scale than a reptile.

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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by ssballow View Post
    I disagree. Flatworms such as as planaria can be trained with electrical shock. They are far lower on a developemental scale than a reptile.
    Is training doing something you have decided to do as opposed to conditioning which is something you do in a given set of circumstances, ie, electro-shock stimulation?

    Or is there no difference at all?
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    Re: I am going to have to disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Is training doing something you have decided to do as opposed to conditioning which is something you do in a given set of circumstances, ie, electro-shock stimulation?

    Or is there no difference at all?
    I would say that depending on the conotation, the words are synonymous, at least as I used it. Any vertebrate can be conditioned to adapt to routine. One of the simplest instincts in animals is the aquisition of food. If the aquisition is the same over a certain time period, the animal will come to depend on the same thing happenning and adapt to the same behavior. Some of those behaviors can eventually be written into genetic code becoming permenant adaptations. At least this is how I understand it.

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