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    Pastel/Recessive Combos?

    Alrighty, Daytona is just around the corner. I've been saving up money for the past 6 months for a new BP. So far I have 500$.

    Currently my serpents den contains a 1.0 normal and 1.0 pastel. So, I need a female morph to move on into breeding.

    Now, I have spent hours on NERD's site and RDR's looking at the different combos and narrowed down my goal to a pastel ivory, pastel caramel albino, pastel clown, or super lemon blast. The first three are all part recessive which brings me to my question.

    Whats the best method to go about breeding for something like a pastel caramel albino in my position?

    1- Do I purchase a very young pair of het caramel albinos, or what ever, raise them to produces caramels then breed it back to my pastel?

    2- Or, should I buy an older het caramel albino female, breed it to my male pastel and hope to get pastels 50% het for caramel. Then breed the pastels 50% het caramel back to my 100% het female?

    Ahhhhh can't decide whats the quickest and most cost effective way... I wish I had enough for an actual recessive morph.

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    Re: Pastel/Recessive Combos?

    You could go for Pastel Orange Ghosts (POG). They are a pretty sweet combo IMO.
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    Re: Pastel/Recessive Combos?

    I'd get a few pastel females, raise them up and plug in a het caramel male into them. You'd end up with pastels poss het caramels. Raise up those possible het females and breed the caramel male back to them. The problem with a het caramel female, is deciding which possible het pastel male to breed to her.

    Or you could buy a caramel female, breed you pastel male to that, and end up with 100% hets. Then you'd breed one of the pastel sons back to her.

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    Re: Pastel/Recessive Combos?

    Hi,

    Well the pastel ivory isn't recessive so I would think about getting a yellowbelly female and if it's in budget (I have no idea of prices sorry ) a female recessive - or even a female normal of a good size.

    That would let you get started raising up the female morphs to breeding size - and if you had a breeding size female normal that might let you have a shot at producing some pastels to fund getting a homozygous recessive male in a year or two which would increase the odds of getting more homozygous females and could also be bred to a female pastel holdback from the first set of pairings and giving you 100% pastel het clowns or caramels.

    Er .... I think.


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    Re: Pastel/Recessive Combos?

    Ah these responses are great! many minds are greater than one.

    I hadn't thought about getting a few pastel females. That would be good though, for then I could make super pastels and pastels to help fund further snake progress.

    Then, If i picked up a het male that would at least give me access to a recessive gene. Plus, het males seem to be a fraction of the cost of females.

    Great responses!

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    • 1.0 Normal - "Mr. Snakey"
    • 1.0 Pastel - "Mojo"
    • 0.1 Spider - "Foxxy Cleopatra"


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