Quote Originally Posted by Envied Reptiles View Post
Kyle that is definitely dedication. Did you ever have doubts early on that the lines may not cross or have you always been sure they were compatable? I also have to wonder, even with your outcrossing, just how related they are. Meaning did TSK, BHB, VPI, NERD etc etc all recieve their animals from different wild collected animals or did they all purchase from one anonther from a single imported caramel making them closer related to begin with.

excellent question, i inquired from many breeders the story on the lines. BHB for example told me that he had two lines from africa that were from the wild. VPI and NERD are the same line hence the reason i always specify that line as VPI-NERD. to my knowledge the other established lines i have mentioned are from the wild and not related "as far as we know". other Caramels have come into the country over the years. what is interesting to me is that i have noticed differences in the lines concerning color. TSK for example seems more yellow overall. my VPI-NERD seems more contrasty. my VPI-NERD X BHB combo is more yellow and lavender. the yellow on this particular Caramel is more "butter" in color. it is of course also true that Caramels can vary within the same clutch like any other morph. breeders like to purchase wild morphs and put their names on them. it is good competition and it helps us all to diversify lines. is africa always honest about all of the lines? who can really say? at the least i can say it is possible to purchase "out bred" hets and Caramels.