Good "companions" for a burm?

[sg1trogdor]

Now Wes, be nice or I won't let you play with the other children. lol. Man I love your posts. Just the perfect thing to help wind down at the end of a long day. That and some beer. . I see you got a few infractions there you might wanna tone it down a notch. I would be bummed if you were booted.

[mumps]

Just read through this thread, and for the first time I actually agree with Wes' points.

Yes the burm will be too big for this enclosure in a year or less. However, before it gets over ten feet it will definitely climb if strong limbs are provided. Too many keepers see a fat burm and think it won't climb... wrong.

Cohabitation is certainly possible with larger reptiles, but the amount of space required to successfully do so is quite a commitment. I've kept tegus and water monitors together until the waters were of a size to eat the tegus. This was in a huge walk in enclosure with a partition section for feeding.

Back to the burm. Live plants? Take a picture right away because they will be not live plants really quickly. Frogs? Possible I suppose but hardly worth the effort.

I would get a similar sized retic, which would use the height more than the burm, until they're both around 8 feet. Then I would move them to bigger enclosure/s.

You want a nice permanent resident for that enclosure? Super Dwarf Retics.

Chris

[waltah!]

While I agree that the live plants would be destroyed in a matter of minutes, I don't think it wise for someone new to snakes to try to cohab a burm and a retic.

[mumps]

I guess I missed the part where the OP is new to snakes.

Orphan, if you are new to snakes, why did you get a burm?

Chris

[wilomn]

It appears that the OP has done some research, is doing more, and actually cares about what he's doing.

Why give him crap for that?

You can keeps burms and retics together, their requirements are identical. It's not as easy as keeping them separately, but there is NO reason not to if he really wants to that has ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING other than prejudice.

All this nonsense about never doing this or that is fine for YOU, but why force it on someone else.

Show the possibilities, discuss the ramifications of various methods, give your OPINION, this is all good.

To make proclamations, especially the ones that start with NEVER, or DON'T EVER, or YOU CAN'T. Bullsnot.

Massive quantities of thick nasty slimy gooey BULLSNOT.

[Skiploder]

All this nonsense about never doing this or that is fine for YOU, but why force it on someone else.

Show the possibilities, discuss the ramifications of various methods, give your OPINION, this is all good.

To make proclamations, especially the ones that start with NEVER, or DON'T EVER, or YOU CAN'T. Bullsnot.

Massive quantities of thick nasty slimy gooey BULLSNOT.

Opinions are good...........actual experience is better.

Hey, we're making progress. A couple of years ago, the common DOGMA (remember that one folks?) on this forum was that you couldn't house ANY snakes together - period. Any attempts to explain all the variables involved in successfully doing it were met with extreme internet scorn.

I remember Jack Spirko getting a ration of you-know-what for trying to explain how it was possible under the right circumstances. Whatever.........

While I haven't cohabitated frogs and snakes and lizards together, I know people who have and have done it successfully for years. The key is to do your research, talk to those who have made it work and ignore those who haven't and are convinced that you can't.

[Simpson Balls]

Don't mix and match just get the Burm and be happy with it because like everyone says the frogs can and probably already do carry sickness that the snake can die from and a very expensive food if the burm decided to eat.

Daniel

[orphan]

I guess I missed the part where the OP is new to snakes.

Orphan, if you are new to snakes, why did you get a burm?

Chris

My good friend is a breeder and he's helping me every step of the way. He even helped be design and build the enclosure. I'm not new to keeping animals and I've always wanted a big python. They're beautiful snakes especially when they reach adulthood.

[wilomn]

Don't mix and match just get the Burm and be happy with it because like everyone says the frogs can and probably already do carry sickness that the snake can die from and a very expensive food if the burm decided to eat.

Daniel

To stay in the "vein" of this thread, do you actually know of any diseases that frogs have that could be transmitted to snakes by contact in this particular circumstance?

Or, as has been the method so far, are you repeated well meant but unfounded advice?

[wolfy-hound]

If the OP is new to snakes, I wouldn't want to advise him to get a retic(especially if he already is getting a burm), due to the retics having more of a temper(generally, feel free to insert your story of your buddy's retic who was lassie with scales and saved timmy from a well and all that jazz) and not usually reccomended for a 'beginner' especially to giants. Burmese seem to overall be nicer in temperament, and if he wants to try retics, he can easily get a retic when the burmese has outgrown this enclosure. By then he should be well versed in the details of giant snakes, and dealing with a second one should not be near the hassle of doing so in the beginning stages of keeping snakes.

Just my $0.02