Bumble Bee X double het caramel glow?

[Turbo Serpent]

Thats not right for a double het caramel glow...? Double het caramel glow is CG,Cg,cG,cg. Im not trying to say an actual caramel glow, just a double het.

Your square will read like this:

-- CG Cg cG cg
PS
Ps
pS
ps

[Turbo Serpent]

To show that the pastel gene on that side is normal.

You don't put the Caramel Glow genes on the side of the bumblebee. The sides of the punnett square are the parents.... not the outcomes.

So one side will be the genes of the BumbleBee and the other the Caramel Glow

[dsmalex97]

listen I'm reading this right out of the keven mccurley book and he writes it out CG,Cg,cG,cg so I don't understand why you write it different. I'm sorry that I'm stupid with this, but there seems to be different ways of figureing it out and I'm getting EXTREMELY confused. But not for anything I think Kevin has it right and seems to make sense. I just don't get how to represent this bumblebee!!! Someone make sense of this in a non-confusing way please lol!

[Kevin_Hornby]

Yes, but the side with the Bumblebee has a small cc representing the alaea (sp) of caramel

[Kevin_Hornby]

How about thinking of it this way. A letter represents an alaea (sp). A capitol letter represents the gene being present where a small letter represents it being normal. So on a breeding it could look like this

llaaccppSs and that would be a spider

l = lesser
a = albino
c = caramel
p = pastel
s = spider

[Kevin_Hornby]

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=52847 check out this thread, may make it easier.

[Turbo Serpent]

Your square will read like this:

-- CG Cg cG cg
PS
Ps
pS
ps

So your outcome will be:

PSCG PSCg PScG PScg
PsCG PsCg PscG Pscg
pSCG pSCg pScG pScg
psCG psCg pscG pscg

PSCG = Normal
PSCg = Normal Het Hypo
PScG = Normal Het Caramel
PScg = Normal Het Caramel glow
PsCG = Spider
PsCg = Spider Het Hypo
PscG = Spider Het Caramel
Pscg = Spider Het Caramel glow
pSCG = Pastel
pSCg = Pastel Het Hypo
pScG = Pastel Het Caramel
pScg = Pastel Het Caramel glow
psCG = Bumblebee
psCg = Bumblebee Het Hypo
pscG = Bumblebee Het Caramel
pscg = Bumblebee Het Caramel glow

[dsmalex97]

Your square will read like this:

-- CG Cg cG cg
PS
Ps
pS
ps

ahhh this makes some sense, thank you turbo serpant!!

now

PS=actual Bee
Ps=Pastel carrying spider gene?
pS=Spider carrying pastel gene
ps=normal?

But co-doms don't carry genes right? Only recessives can hold other genes like the double hets for example. Theres no pastel carrying a hidden gene right?

[Turbo Serpent]

Yes, but the side with the Bumblebee has a small cc representing the alaea (sp) of caramel

Nope. There is no caramel ont he side of the bumblebee. Because the bumble bee is not mixed with the Caramel until after the punnett square.

[GenePirate]

Bee is on the top, het caramel glow on the bottom. You can set up your square like this:

.........PScg Pscg pScg pscg
psCg
pscg
psCG
pscG

However, don't make things more complicated than they are. The bee has NO chance of throwing a caramel or ghost gene, so take those out of the mix. Similarly, the double het CG has NO chance of contributing a pastel or spider gene, so take those out of the mix. Only consider what your breeders can contribute, then assume the rest. You will wind up with this:

......PS Ps pS ps
Cg
cg
CG
cG

So, you can get equal chances of a bee het for caramel, pastel het for caramel, spider het for caramel, het caramel, bee, pastel, spider, normal, double het CG bee, double het CG pastel, double het CG spider, double het CG, bee het for ghost, pastel het for ghost, spider het for ghost, or het ghost. Each possibility is 1 in 16.

But, you'll have no idea which are going to be the CG single or double hets. Good luck.