Soon to be new owner.

[Shin86]

without any negative consequences

[rabernet]

k then...try telling this statement to the other schkibillion or so people who use fir bark....

What's schkibillion?

I guess you didn't choose to read the link I posted, so I'll quote it for you.

SUBSTRATE
Under no circumstances should you keep these animals on pine or cedar. Pine, cedar and other phenol-containing woods have toxins which can cause significant health problems in a variety of herps and other animals and should not be used. Sand, gravel, and crushed walnut are also very poor choices for ball pythons.


Your choice on substrate should be something readily available and one which lends itself to easy spot cleaning and other cage maintenance chores. You should check your enclosure daily for odors or more visible signs or waste and remove them – replacing the substrate when necessary.

Some viable options for substrate include but are not limited to:
Repti-Bark or Jungle Bark type chips
Aspen
Newspapers/Newsprint
Paper towels
Carpet (harder to maintain)
Cypress Mulch
Coconut Husk-based substrates
Care-Fresh or similar products that do not pose impaction risks

[rabernet]

without any negative consequences

Please provide data and sources from "schkibillion" to support that claim.

[Shin86]

k well i'm telling you your WRONG....and schkibillion is a made up number, considering im not a wizard and know exactly how many people use fir....which is what reptibark is.....

[rabernet]

k well i'm telling you your WRONG....and schkibillion is a made up number, considering im not a wizard and know exactly how many people use fir....which is what reptibark is.....

Good luck with that!

[JeffJ]

k well i'm telling you your WRONG....and schkibillion is a made up number, considering im not a wizard and know exactly how many people use fir....which is what reptibark is.....

your arguing with some one who has been keeping snakes for decades owns more then i can count and breeds as well

if its any ones opinion and information i trust around here rabernet IS one of the few.

you should do some light reading. this is one of the THOUSANDS of articles on the internet explaining why cedar, pine and other soft woods from that family are TOXIC to reptiles.

http://www.anapsid.org/cedar.html

[TraviZ]

Good luck with that!

I bought reptibark which says made of douglas fir. so im confused. maybe its treated, dried or whatever. anyways. I am going to go out today and buy this thermostat. I found my buddy went into his rockcave I gave him so thats good! no more hanging in the tree like a snake monkey! One concern, m digital thermometer with probe says the hot side this morning is 121! but not until it got that hot he came down from the tree. i touched the surface where the probe is and it feels a little warm but nothing crazy at all. In fact I bet it feels about 90 because my house is chilled at 75 right now. think my thermometer is bad? I think I am going to try to measure with another tool I have.

[JeffJ]

I bought reptibark which says made of douglas fir. so im confused. maybe its treated, dried or whatever. anyways. I am going to go out today and my this thermostat. I found my buddy went into his rockcave I gave him so thats good! no more hanging in the tree like a snake monkey! One concern, m digital thermometer with probe says the hot side this morning is 121! but not until it got that hot he came down from the tree. i touched the surface where the probe is and it feels a little warm but nothing crazy at all. In fact I bet it feels about 90 because my house is chilled at 75 right now. think my thermometer is bad? I think I am going to try to measure with another tool I have.

as long as its treated (kiln dried or something of the like) then its ok.

Zilla brand is treated.

[mrshawt]

So, is Repti bark bad? A handful of people here use it, and it does say it's ok to use in the caresheet.

JeffJ, kiln drying it gets rid of the vapors?

[rabernet]

your arguing with some one who has been keeping snakes for decades owns more then i can count and breeds as well

if its any ones opinion and information i trust around here rabernet IS one of the few.

you should do some light reading. this is one of the THOUSANDS of articles on the internet explaining why cedar, pine and other soft woods from that family are TOXIC to reptiles.

http://www.anapsid.org/cedar.html

Jeff, thank you! Not decades, I'm afraid, but about 5 years now!