What would you do?

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

Thanks!!!

I think it would be neat to make an albino piebald, too... what would happen if I got my piebald and bred her right to my albino male? double hets? I have so much to learn!

[stratus_020202]

Yes, all 100% double hets. Which is a really good thing.

[mumps]

Hi,

Tough call.

Since you have het pied and het albino females I'm not sure you would get a lot of advantage to breeding a clutch of 50% poss het pieds and holding back all the females, or having more female het albino's.

But it really depends on your long term goals - doing the above you would have more chance of extra recessive offspring with only 3 years to wait and you would know the full history of the animals. But they would also all be related to the males you have.

Personally I would think about running the pastel through all three breedable age females and possibly exchanging, or selling, the offspring to either get unrelated animals of the genes you already have or possibly even adding more varieties.

But in the end it comes down to what you really plan on long term.


dr del

Thank you so much for posting this.

I am sick of the "keep the females and breed them back to their father" suggestions I see all over the internet. We're going to end up with a bunch of messed up snakes if everyone does that. One eyed albinos, anyone?

As for the op, go with what interests you. The double-het albino pied is a long project, but a well worth it one. I would suggest producing the DH, and then trading with someone else who has DH, and mix up the bloodlines.

Good luck.

Chris

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

I will definitely be talking about all these ideas with DH when we get the chance. Good stuff! What a nice and helpful place this is.

[Boneyman]

If it were up to me I would breed the pastel to all the females. Keep all the females of the clutch. Then sell or trade the males to expand the collection.

[Seneschal]

Well, I know everyone says to do all pastels...but if you want piebalds, and you're most interested in pieds, then why NOT breed the 100% het pied male to one of the normal girls and hold back the poss het girls. Look at it this way--you save them, and you have 3 years before they'll be breedable. But in the mean time, why not buy another 100% het male of a different lineage? They're not expensive (I see 100% het males going for $100) and that way you'll have diverse genetics and a higher chance of producing piebalds--and more of them!--in a few years. And even if some of the 50% het girls don't turn out to be hets, well, that's fine too, because you'll still have nice, solid normal girls for breeding your codoms and such to, and you'll know where they came from and that they're healthy. I think you're always better off raising your girls from babies. Besides that, getting an adult female, she might not feel secure enough in her new surroundings to breed for a year or two--maybe as long as it would have taken if you'd just gotten babies.

And anyways...if you're lucky, you might end up with 2-3 100% het pied girls of breedable size and age instead of just one and some babies. *wink*

Sooo...maybe not instant gratification, but you'd get what you want in the long run, I guess.

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

Been talking it over with DH and we're both super excited! We had some snake setbacks and learned some hard lessons (DON'T get discount snakes off Craigslist from idiots!). Hundreds of dollars of vet bills later... we have ten beautiful, healthy snakes, five of whom are from breeders and five of whom are lucky finds or rescues.

We've got time to think it over- we can't really breed any this year, right? Or do they still breed in summer sometimes? We are in Florida and our snakes are in an screened area that is not air conditioned- they love the heat, but they definitely know what season it is (Don't worry, they were indoors all winter).

[aff19802]

Been talking it over with DH and we're both super excited! We had some snake setbacks and learned some hard lessons (DON'T get discount snakes off Craigslist from idiots!). Hundreds of dollars of vet bills later... we have ten beautiful, healthy snakes, five of whom are from breeders and five of whom are lucky finds or rescues.

We've got time to think it over- we can't really breed any this year, right? Or do they still breed in summer sometimes? We are in Florida and our snakes are in an screened area that is not air conditioned- they love the heat, but they definitely know what season it is (Don't worry, they were indoors all winter).

its my Understanding that you can really bread whenever you want because they are captive you just want to ajust the temps for breeding season...

Someone correct me if i am wrong.

[Seneschal]

Been talking it over with DH and we're both super excited! We had some snake setbacks and learned some hard lessons (DON'T get discount snakes off Craigslist from idiots!). Hundreds of dollars of vet bills later... we have ten beautiful, healthy snakes, five of whom are from breeders and five of whom are lucky finds or rescues.

We've got time to think it over- we can't really breed any this year, right? Or do they still breed in summer sometimes? We are in Florida and our snakes are in an screened area that is not air conditioned- they love the heat, but they definitely know what season it is (Don't worry, they were indoors all winter).

XD I'm in north florida and I've got my boy locking with one of my girls as we speak. They're LOVING this weather lately! I've kept my windows cracked for the cool front and the rain. I think you'll be fine.

[TheOtherLeadingBrand]

I sure hope we get something. My giant female locked with one of my males a few months ago and nothing resulted. So that was discouraging.