Here you are...

[Stewart_Reptiles]

You know Andrew if it was me and I was unhappy on a forum because of the atmosphere, other members, its staff I would leave and never look back.

YOU chose to be here, no one is forcing you to be here no one is forcing you to agree with the way the forum is ran either, at least you have the ability to express yourself about it, which would not always be the case on other forums.

The thing is that you cannot please everyone (even the President knows that ), you also cannot make everyone get along, that too is impossible, all you can do is try to maintain peace in all fairness and whether you believe it or not the staff here is definitely trying is best doing so.

If you think otherwise than maybe there is a community out there that is more suited to YOUR needs maybe you can even create your own community………………but again no one is forcing you to be a member or post here just like no one is forcing me to be here or post here I an doing so because I want to and because I like this community (if I did not I would not be here).

[CeraDigital]

You know Andrew if it was me and I was unhappy on a forum because of the atmosphere, other members, its staff I would leave and never look back.

YOU chose to be here, no one is forcing you to be here no one is forcing you to agree with the way the forum is ran either, at least you have the ability to express yourself about it, which would not always be the case on other forums.

The thing is that you cannot please everyone (even the President knows that ), you also cannot make everyone get along, that too is impossible, all you can do is try to maintain peace in all fairness and whether you believe it or not the staff here is definitely trying is best doing so.

If you think otherwise than maybe there is a community out there that is more suited to YOUR needs maybe you can even create your own community………………but again no one is forcing you to be a member or post here just like no one is forcing me to be here or post here I an doing so because I want to and because I like this community (if I did not I would not be here).

If someone needs help with their camera equipment, photography choices, etc, I am there to help. Same a long the lines of Rock Python aspects. If I take a shot, I take a shot... but to make outright claims that this forum is fair, especially the "fairest"...is different. It was said to take it to site info if you have a problem....well... here I am.

3. No Hate Speak. This includes, but is not limited to: cursing; threats of violence; racial, religious, or sexual slurs; personal attacks; bear-baiting; and speech intended to cause or further a "flame war" or personal vendetta. This includes vindictive use of the Reputation System. Ultimately, it will be up to the staff (the mods and ultimately the admins) to determine if any given post or thread has crossed these lines.

Whatever happened to the photo session you were so excited about at Brian's btw? His integrity didn't seem to be an issue to you then?

And you cancelled a photo shoot because of monitors in feeding tubs?

Seems you could have seen for yourself instead of joining the speculation bandwagon

Hmmmm.... seems to be bear baiting.

[stratus_020202]

So, why couldn't these questions have been answered in pm's? Why bring them out publicly? You would probably get quicker answers in pm's. Since, you are notified immediately if you have one.

I am new to this forum, but I know it has been around for a long time. I'm sure if the mods were so unfair it wouldn't be here.

I appreciate all the mods do for us. Look at what happened to Bruce (and if you don't know, you should look it up). This kind of closeness doesn't happen on a lot of forums. This forum is like a family. I can only hope when my children's children get their first herp, this site is here to help them with any/all of their questions.

[wolfy-hound]

I don't see your example as bear baiting. You were asked about a photo shoot you talked about publicly. Maybe you are taking it personally, and reading more intent than was meant?

According to your posts in this thread, it's stating your opinion when it's YOU, but attacking others if it's someone else. It's unfair if you want to continue saying the same thing over and over in a thread that was allowed to go on and on until it simply became repetitive.

You can't insist on a double standard. The thread was allowed, and it finally got down to "He's a good guy, he explained about the big snakes and monitors" or "He's a bad guy becuase he showed big snakes and a monitor in small cages".

You either believe he was fixing the issues, and the tub was a feeding tub, or you believe he was lying. The ones that believe he's a good guy were not being convinced otherwise, and the ones that are convinced he's lying were not being convinced otherwise either. So what more would you want to happen in that thread? It's been up multiple DAYS.

I feel this is one of the best forums as far as friendly discussion. Others might have their high points too, but overall, I prefer this one. I'm sure that you help out here(and elsewhere) with a great deal of very good information about cameras and giants. But if it does make you so unhappy to see any moderation, then perhaps you should bow out, and continue on forums that have less moderation and allow threads to go on for however long that they do?

The end opinion of me is that I do not try to change how a forum is run, and I don't bash the moderators of any forum. If I'm unhappy on any certain forum, at some point I leave, and frequent forums that are run more to my liking. I would hate to think you are making yourself unhappy, just to try to change the moderators of a forum that is successful for most of the members.

Please don't read any of the above with sarcasm. I really do mean it exactly as written.

[Creeptastic]

Man, I am convinced that you are in the same category as trolls. Just trying to start crap. Your signature is proof of that

[stratus_020202]

I don't think she's coming back guys if you read under her picture. It's probably better to let this rest for now. Let's get back to picture scooping

[AaronP]

I don't think she's coming back guys if you read under her picture. It's probably better to let this rest for now. Let's get back to picture scooping

Just for the record, CeraDigital is guy .

[JLC]

I'd like to set the record straight about something before public or private speculation gets carried away.

Andrew (CeraDigital) was banned due to Infraction points earned. He did NOT earn infractions from this thread (except for two points for cursing). We let him speak his mind in this thread and will leave his words here for anyone to read and make their own minds up about the fairness or unfairness of the staff.

But Andrew was not content with that. He also created a new signature for himself that the staff felt was an intentional effort to undermine our authority and credibility to run this site properly. I sent him a PRIVATE message letting him know that while we will allow a certain amount of public discussion and questions, he had gone too far with that signature and would earn serious infraction points if he chose to leave it up.

He chose to leave it up. He earned the infractions. And continued to leave it up...and earned more infractions. At which point, he suggested that we simply make the ban a permanent one (rather than the 30-day temporary ban 100 points usually earns) and that he would be sure to smear us on some forum review program he is participating on.

That is the end of the story.