Here you are...

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Now when another breeder would have given such answer, they would have probably been ripped apart for "lying" or covering up their story, correct?

How can someone answer assumptions of hypothetical situations? I suppose when you see a kitten crossing the road, you would swerve to try and hit it on purpose, right? Naahhhh...you wouldn't do that, you'd just try and scare it a little...right?

Brian EARNED the respect afforded him and given to him by the vast majority of the herping community. If you can't see that, then I am sorry for you.

Or perhaps give better practice towards equal treatment. Would that not be definition of fair? "Equal"



What guarantee can you give, other than integrity, to provide a "fair" and "equal" forum? What proof do you have, as has been claimed, that this is a fair, or "fairest" internet forum...

So, being people of integrity and honesty isn't good enough for you? Not sure what else we can be. Should we LOWER our standards in order to more closely match YOUR idea of "fairness"...to bend the rules for you in the contests...or to unjustly punish someone just because YOU didn't like something they said?

Oh? Practically making fun of my statement. I do believe that would be bear baiting.

Again, in your eyes, perhaps. But not in the eyes of the staff. I'm sorry you disagree with that position.

I had not seen that mistake "corrected". I am not the only individual who had seen that as poking a stick, bear baiting, or making fun. Perhaps you should go and look back on it.

I didn't say you were the only one.

As for my fairness? Perhaps you should look at what fairness means, before claiming a fair site.


You preach fairness, yet I have seen other breeders, such as Wes Harris attacked for no reason other than your own justifications. You all were pretty severe on him...please do, tell.... how much do you know of the truth about what went on, other than claims on fauna, or second hand comments, such as the market crashing. How much of the truth did Wes state, when it was shunned, or looked down on and he was called a liar? This is just an example.

What did Wes Harris do to earn the respect of the community BEFORE serious issues cropped up in his business? The questions put to Wes were done so simply because he had no credibility built up at all. Why should anyone have given him the benefit of the doubt at the time when he had done nothing to earn such a benefit? If that one example is the entire extent of your repertoire of our unfairness, then you're trying to balance on a one-legged tripod.

Look at a few other forums, such as CU. Large amount of ACTIVE members. 2 moderators. Nothing such as this going on. Hmmm...obviously those forums are doing something right. Even when something such as a large disagreement goes down, nothing like this happens.

I'm happy for them! Truly! And I'm sure they will be more than blessed to have you make yourself at home over there.

So you cannot answer my question? I've given more than one statement as to how it is not fair. Where is yours?

I will let our actions stand for us. If we're as unfair as you claim us to be, then our membership will leave for the greener pastures of those "other" forums you like so much. If we drive our membership away due to our own actions, then we will have gotten what we deserve.