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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    you SERIOUSLY need to find a COMPETENT herp vet that can administer the antibiotics for this snake correctly!!! DO NOT attempt this stuff by yourself, especially if you have little experience dealing with sick snakes.
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    I am so right now. OK let see, I have a head ache the labels says take two every 6 hours if pain persists. Well I really want my headache to go away quicker so let me take 10 and maybe that will work. Maybe it will if you don't want to have a pulse anymore. You just can't change the dose of medication. If the vet told you one drop then don't change it to umm 6? If what the vet told you does not sound right(a sand boa eating baby food) then get a second opinion.

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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    Ok guys, here's the poop.

    This is a rescue and the guy is here for advice. It's not a pet he got and doesn't know how to take care of.

    Baytril, as with any antibiotic, must be taken consistently over a set amount of time to work effectively.

    6 drops in one day isn't going to cut it.

    The meat babyfood is perfectly acceptable as a medium to deliver baytril. Having the proper tools is what is lacking here.

    You need a lavage (?) needle, not really a needle as it isn't pointed but rounded on the end, which you can then attach to a syringe to give the babyfood/baytril mix. I'm guessing but maybe .5cc per day.

    The good thing about baytril is that it is hard to overdose with it. Your snake with excrete it when it urinates.

    Bird stores, the ones that breed their own baby birds, carry the lavage, they use them for feeding the baby birds. There are a goodly number of sizes so don't get one too large in gauge or short in length.
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    Quote Originally Posted by mechnut450 View Post
    the vet said one drop with the baby food , and to feed every day. I thinknig if I fed this snake everyday I end up drowning it in baby food cause it would not get a chance to digest at all. so a couple drops in a rat tail would be the same dose over a weekend. My spelling for lack of bettewr words suck I try to spell the word of the top of my head with out taking time to look them up .
    I am not picking on your wording or anything like that, I mistype things all the time. I hope everything works out for you with this little guy, Wilomn knows what he is talking about take his advice on this one. Good luck

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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    well I can say this I got him to eat, almost taking off in the process I offered it a mouse tail which I tried to inject ( not even .5cc) of the meds into (got a couple diabtic 1/2cc instulan needle( new) and I put about 4 units in the needle and then injected the the tail ( only got about 1 unit) total out some of it came right back out the injection site.)

    anyhow the snake injested the tail and while working it down attempted to run off ( main concern was not eating and the fact I find out after it was dropped off it had a RI ) the little guy will do better with the meal I gave it since the baby food could ( with my luck) leak into the lungs if I forced too much into the snake.That why I injected the meds into the tail. I have no business trying to inject the med into the snake on my own( too hevay handed for such a small snake) I not a vet or a person that would attempt to do a vet work. I am just working with what I was given and looking into doing the best I can for a snake that may not make it if not for my attempt(s). As it stands right now i am out of the money it cost to take the snake to the vet and such, if the person decides they want the snake back.

    As said before in when I joined I do the reptile rescue(s) as a hobby I don't have a job to support this hobby (outside of cuting a few yards ) which is mostly for exerise and to help out a bunch of the local eldery I know ( they don't have any business out pushing a mower in 90+ degree weather ). out of what little money I do make with this and a few other odd jobs has to cover all my reptile supllies, and any other expenses I get ( like vet cost for rescued snakes). My disablity money is stric kly gone to house bills and such.

    example: if I make say 2 grand cutting all summer. that got o cover any mowing expense, all the rodent cost, reptile supplies, fuel to do rescues, any possible vet cost form such rescues, I have to add money to the electric bill since the reptiles care cause itto go up. and if I happen to decide I want a book or some thing else there that cost too. ( the personal part is always last).


    If you really want to get mad about something it should be the fact that people get rid of snakes like this whe nthey get sick and are not willnig ot put the money out for the vet and just get rid of them. I am currently housing 19 snakes andoutside of the het and morphs I personally own , that 11 snakes in my care that were abandonedbecause they became a hassle to care for., or an extrea expense they chosed to place on another.
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    Quote Originally Posted by mechnut450 View Post


    If you really want to get mad about something it should be the fact that people get rid of snakes like this whe nthey get sick and are not willnig ot put the money out for the vet and just get rid of them. I am currently housing 19 snakes andoutside of the het and morphs I personally own , that 11 snakes in my care that were abandonedbecause they became a hassle to care for., or an extrea expense they chosed to place on another.
    A word of caution.

    There will come a time when you cannot take in any more rescues either because of space or money. When you reach that point, stop. Take good care of what you have, adopt them out, then get more.

    Don't be one of those hoarders we read about.
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    eah I am at that point I wantot get theses guys straight and made sure they got a clean health and then get them out the door. I got 4 corns that I hopingot get gone now people keepsaying they want them and they will come by but not seen are heard from them since.
    ( what sucks I still got corn eggs that are due to hatch end of the month.
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    well an update of sorts
    the little guy has shed today ( with some help) he had it stuck arounf thehed from were it didn not come off the last time and the yellow belly are is now white, the only thing I find odd was there was a smell to him while shedding the skin. I not sure if this ids common or not. but it a little funky..
    I also see him drinking a lot of water is this normal ? he drinking more often than my bps do..
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    He may have musked when you were helping him shed. It's stinky.

    I wouldn't worry about him drinking a lot, he won't over do it.

    Try to make sure his nostrils are clear and the skin is off his labial scales, around his mouth.

    Sounds like he's getting a little more strength.
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    Re: kenya sand boa need info and piccs for the lower jaw

    took a while bit i goth e stuck shed off (from previse time the little did get a complete shed this stime since i helped, i bet if hit could i gotten either bit or crapped on for the help.
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