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    Re: Spider question

    Wow. That was a lot of work. It is still fairly close to the 50/50 mark. That's interesting, thanks!
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    Re: Spider question

    Very cool stats! You could make sure to collect the info on the stats of any clutches each year, and continue to check.

    Just curious... what was the odds for the male spider - normal female clutchs overall, with ALL clutches figured in, instead of just the "matching clutches" for the way you did it? Since you had the odds percentage for the All clutches from female spiders, I'd like to know what the actual odds percentage was for the All clutchs from male spiders!

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    Re: Spider question

    It was almost 45% from total clutches produced by male spiders to normal females.

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    Re: Spider question

    Hi,

    While you were compiling all this did you happen to get info on spider to spider breedings with clutch sizes and morph ratios?


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    Re: Spider question

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    While you were compiling all this did you happen to get info on spider to spider breedings with clutch sizes and morph ratios?


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    No I was only doing Spider to normal breedings. I know that there would be a huge jump in the amount of spiders produced from Spider to Spider which is why I only did the Spider to normal.

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    Re: Spider question

    There is a similar assertion in horse breeding and dog breeding about certain colors and about breed traits. For instance, if you are breeding draft horses to light horses, you breed light mothers to maintain certain traits or light fathers to maintain certain other traits. That one is more vague than teh color traits though. I think that if you are breeding for splashy paints you want the mother to have the strong color for maximum gene expression. (I am going from memory of articles read. So my memory could be off.) tatt, have you got any data on that? Articles?

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    I have nothing about horses but I do know what you are talking about... Kinda...

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    Re: Spider question

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by tattlife2001 View Post
    No I was only doing Spider to normal breedings. I know that there would be a huge jump in the amount of spiders produced from Spider to Spider which is why I only did the Spider to normal.
    Pity.

    The size and make up of the clutches in those kind of numbers might have been an intresting indicator on the homozygous spider question.


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    Re: Spider question

    dr del, you could do the same thing though. Call or email all the ball python breeders that mention breeding spiders, and ask if they bred spider to spider, and what was the results.
    I'm sure most wouldn't mind giving you the information. It would be a cool little study to work up. Given the number of hobby breeders with at least one spider to breed, it could be a great deal of information.
    I know! You should get a government grant for the study! LOL.
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    Re: Spider question

    Quote Originally Posted by tattlife2001 View Post
    As for a book the teacher is right look at balding in humans. It is carried from the mothers side. My Professor is saying that genetics are more likely to be passed by the mother than by the father. The paper is to prove or disprove that within a small sample group, a single species or a small group of a single species. Sorry that came out wrong in last posting...
    well im 21 years old and already balding, im sure it will be gone when im 30. every man on my moms side had hair til the day they died, however just about every man on my dads side has lost it. i think im walking proof that the whole balding thing being on your moms side is eigher not that simple or just bullcrap completly.

    but i think it was said before, the spider gene is not the same as balding, its a simple dominate trait (well mayb not simple, we still don't seem to have a solid answer on whole "why are their no super spiders")

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