Brian has been getting slack for his monitor keeping for quite some time. Yet I am unable to find an edition of SnakeBytes where he shows us the "actual enclosures". Or even the makings of one.

Tubs suck for snakes, I don't care what your goals are.
Tubs are ridiculous for monitors, and Wes, I have been keeping large varanids since 1990, and I know what I'm talking about. Tubs DO make great water containers for small monitors and medium snakes. And I have been keeping giant snakes since 1986.

You guys all belong to the same group that think reptiles are stupid, don't know their keepers, can't learn or even recognize themselves. The same group that thought Mommy Croc was eating her young...

We haven't even scratched the surface as far as reptile behavioural studies go. I can tell you, after 30+ years of keeping them, that they are smarter than you think and you are torturing them in those tubs without any stimulation/opportunities to be themselves.

Not that you'll listen to me, you've got your own greed to think about...

Chris