Chemtrails

[PythonWallace]

I'm not denying that jets put out contrails. I've never really cared about "chem-trails" very much, but now my interest is peaked. I didn't see any 100% fact proof in these, but it's interesting reading for skeptics like myself.

Rep. Kucinich's HR 2977
Names Chemtrails As
An 'Exotic Weapon'
By Lorie Kramer
seektress@ev1.net
1-10-2

After years of denial from government, military, and environmental agencies, the reality of the controversial issue regarding the covert programs known as Chemtrails has been acknowledged.

On October 2, 2001 Congressman Dennis Kucinich, Ohio introduced H. R. 2977 during the 1st Session of the 107th Congress of the United States. The "Space Preservation Act of 2001" seeks to "preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benfit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons."

In the bill Chemtrails are listed as an "exotic weapons system". Ironically in Section 7 - Definitions. The complete text of the bill may be found at Clifford Carnicom's website, "Chemtrail Crimes and Coverup Documented".

The bill also addresses such things as particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation, and mind-control as weapons. All of these areas have been researched and pondered by those investigating chemtrails and working to gain accountability for those programs.

They can't have it both ways. Water vapor is not a weapon.

This is a call to all those of conscience. This is a time when action is needed. It is time. The lies have gone on long enough. We can tell the Air Force and the Navy and the other agencies involved in this criminal activity, "No, You may NOT own the Weather ...Period!" We may not have another chance.

On behalf of the members of Chemtrail Tracking USA, Clifford Carnicom's Board, Chemtrail Central and the many other groups and individuals working diligently to get accountability, we urge your listeners to respond. Contact government and media, demand answers. If not now, when?

We know what we see. We did not consent. We want it stopped.

To see text of HR 2977:
http://www.carnicom.com/hr2977.htm


Rep. Kucinich's Bill is also listed at this US Government site:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...c107h.lst:2901


Note regarding particulars of HR 2977 -

The 'Space Preservation Act of 2001' deals mainly with space as defined by ALTITUDE. Granted, we don't receive reports of chemtrails or contrails in space.

The bill states "SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS. In this Act:

(1) The term 'space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space."

However, in Section 7, 2 (C) it states.

"The term 'exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or NATURAL ECOSYSTEMS (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or CLIMATE, WEATHER, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space." (emphasis added.)

This would definately include the altitude at which chemtrails are found.

In addition, in Section 7 - Definitions, it is stated in (2)(A) "The terms 'weapon' and 'weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following: (ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person."

Here, of course, the word "vicinity" would need further definition. But chemtrails fit the bill (pun intended) as a weapons program that is threatening the biological life, bodily health, mental health, and the physical and economic well-being of millions of people.

HR 2977 has a lot to be desired as a bill in relation to chemtrails. This in no way negates the fact that chemtrails have been named as an exotic weapon in a congressional document.

For battle weary chemtrail researchers and activists, this is very important. Whether Rep. Kucinich intended it or not, he has handed us the can opener to the biggest can of worms he has probably ever seen. We intend, with our flags in hand, and as loud a voice as can be collectively gathered, to open the can. -LK


Army Aerial Spraying Tests Panic, Anger Florida Keys Residents
http://www.rense.com/general24/we.htm

US admits chemical weapons tests BBC 10/10/02 Original Link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2315081.stm

Of Microbes and Mock Attacks - 51 Years Ago, The Military Sprayed Germs on U.S. Cities
http://www.rense.com/general15/ofmicrobesandmock.htm

Military Said Behind Up To Four Different Chemtrail Programs
http://www.rense.com/general11/chmmill.htm

Also see:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez More..?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=15082100&query_hl=2

Finally, PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79] TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520 "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM" "The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies." "The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]." -SOURCE- Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f27_1199846714&p=1

[littleindiangirl]

I'm very unlikely to take the words from a conspiracy theory as holding any truth.

The thing with conspiracy theories and their explanations, is they make sense to uneducated or gullible people, their most often targeted audience.

Chlorine/Chloride: chlorine which is used in the production plastics and chemicals. Chlorine, deadly gas.

Sodium, a metal that reacts violently with water. Important in the chemical, petro and textile industries.

Put them together and...

NaCl!

Sodium Chloride is also known as table salt. A necessary compound for life on this earth.

Quite literally, ALL minerals and elements are by themselves quite a bit different, but once through a chemical reaction, can be very helpful or life sustaining.

So color me skeptical when folks try to use simply misleading "facts" and applying them incorrectly.

[Serpents_Den]

Connie,

Did you even read the post above yours that PythonWallace posted? Is it still a conspiracy when the government admits it?

[Sanova]

I'm very unlikely to take the words from a conspiracy theory as holding any truth.

The thing with conspiracy theories and their explanations, is they make sense to uneducated or gullible people, their most often targeted audience.

Luckily you are above the rest of us. So you get your disInformation from 'credible' sources like the library of congress :

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:

this is the Space Preservation Act of 2001 HR 2977 IH

Asking for the banning of 'exotic weapons' such as Chemtrails. You'd have to do a little bit more research on your own if you'd like to see the article on the FAA workers admitting to the use of chemtrails and the differnce between Chemtrails and Contrails.

..Happy Trails!

Edit: Just saw what Python Wallace posted. Sorry for the repost, carry on

with love.

[Serpents_Den]

There have been many o called conspiracy theories that are no longer a conspiracy but truth. Research 911 and watch 911 The Ripple Effect or Loose Change Final Cut on Google.

[SPJ]

Kinda makes you wonder about the latest H1N1 flu outbreak.


Not just one flu but made up of 3 components.
Swine Flu
Avian Flu
Human Flu

No one can seem to pinpoint it's origin but the swine flu part of it is a match to what was found in the U.S. in 1998.

[Serpents_Den]

Kinda makes you wonder about the latest H1N1 flu outbreak.


Not just one flu but made up of 3 components.
Swine Flu
Avian Flu
Human Flu

No one can seem to pinpoint it's origin but the swine flu part of it is a match to what was found in the U.S. in 1998.

Here's an interesting commercial from 1976 unfortunately people that were duped into taking a vaccine got the swine flu/

YouTube - 1976 Swine Flu Propaganda

[PythonWallace]

I'm very unlikely to take the words from a conspiracy theory as holding any truth.

The thing with conspiracy theories and their explanations, is they make sense to uneducated or gullible people, their most often targeted audience.

I wish I had known that I was too smart and too educated to consider believing any possibility of any conspiracy theory, being that I'm college educated, having graduated H.S. a full year before my class, and having an I.Q. of 157. I was under the impression that Fox and MSNBC were the providers of propaganda aimed at the ignorant and gullible.

Here is another admission from the MP and MoD in Britain about the employment of chemtrails for four decades. I think they were just contrails, but I can't prove it yet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Ar...398507,00.html

Millions were in germ war tests
Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials
Antony Barnett, public affairs editor
Observer

Sunday April 21, 2002

The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.

Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.

The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack. In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall.

Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document - which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'

[Ben Biscy]

I'm very unlikely to take the words from a conspiracy theory as holding any truth.

The thing with conspiracy theories and their explanations, is they make sense to uneducated or gullible people, their most often targeted audience.


Put them together and...

post looks better like this. what DO you get when conspiracy hits the so-called educated?

if you think that what the media blasts you with as fact and the only truth, you are indeed blind. Conspiracy theories don't come from morons, and the foil hat remark is one used by others to encourage stupidity and blind following. it's not "cool" to believe in conspiracy theories, so they must all be wrong!!! yeah, that's it!!!!

let me ask you this. how is it that a man (bin laden) can have less than six months to live, yet still be making threatening videos years later? the man was on dialysis for crying out loud!!! laden is dead, 911 was a sham, and most like you bought it hook, line and sinker.

conspiracy isn't conspiracy if they REALLY ARE out to get you

[PythonWallace]

Even though I think Alex Jones is a whack job, I always thought this clip was interesting, being that it was made just six weeks before 9/11/01.

YouTube - Alex Jones Warns of 9/11