CO2 Chamber

[BPMIKE]

I wasn't looking to upset anyone or start an argument.As for turning lose the mice I live in Ca.This state has very strict regulations on what animals they allow in the state for the reason of reproduction and upsetting the environment.These mice had very little chance of living more than a day or two in the wild.Not one of my best ideas but I can't and wouldn't take it back.The BP collection is more my sons than mine.I have never liked the feeding process. For those of you who were upset by me turning lose the mice I went outside about an hour later and they were in the same area I set them free at. I walked to them and picked them up and let them lose again.Point being if I could catch them with ease their predators would have no problem catching them. there are many snakes,coyotes,owls and other predators in Ca.

[littleindiangirl]

However, anything larger than a mouse or rat pup is quite more difficult to kill by cervical dislocation, and in my opinion, is a lot easier to do incorrectly, which would result in an animal in severe unbearable pain. Cervical dislocation is recommended to be done by someone well trained, and can be very hard emotionally on the person practicing it.

CO2 is inexpensive, easy to accomplish with very low risk, and can be done literally by anyone without practice. You don't even need to watch the entire process as it's happening, as long as you remain there and check on them after an allotted time.

CO2 has an anesthesia effect after only a few seconds, increasing the pain threshold and making the animal drowsy. This is seen as humane for the animal.

My .02 cents.

[Creeptastic]

It would seem to me that it is cheaper to buy already killed mice anyways. Right? I mean including shipping, can get 100 frozen mice for 50 dollars. I would imagine live, they are about what 1-5 dollars?

[mykee]

Here's a link to the chamber I built on my site:
http://strictlyballs.ca/co2chamber.html

[RoyalGuardian]

I personally prefer spinal dislocation for pre-killing rodents. Gassing seems nicer, because we've been taught all our lives to abhor physical trauma, but really killing is killing, and quicker/more painless the better. Nothing is faster, easier, or more kind to the feeder than spinal dislocation.

Yes baking soda+white vinegar will work to produce CO2 and let you suffocate your rodents.. but it's not the method I would use.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I completely 300% agree! plus.. who wants to be suffocated to death o_O

[mykee]

Suffocation only happens when you introduce too much Co2 too quickly and the carbon dioxide doesn't have a chance to "trickle" into the lungs, replacing the oxygen and causing SLEEP. Signs of a "bad kill" (or no patience on the users end) are choking and very deep, laboured breathing. Those of you who have witnessed these symptoms before, have witnessed a "bad kill". This type of behavior is not indicitive of the responsible herper.

[RoyalGuardian]

However, anything larger than a mouse or rat pup is quite more difficult to kill by cervical dislocation, and in my opinion, is a lot easier to do incorrectly, which would result in an animal in severe unbearable pain. Cervical dislocation is recommended to be done by someone well trained, and can be very hard emotionally on the person practicing it.

CO2 is inexpensive, easy to accomplish with very low risk, and can be done literally by anyone without practice. You don't even need to watch the entire process as it's happening, as long as you remain there and check on them after an allotted time.

CO2 has an anesthesia effect after only a few seconds, increasing the pain threshold and making the animal drowsy. This is seen as humane for the animal.

My .02 cents.

But at the same time you are suffocating the animal. Have you ever seen the first Resident Evil movie? In it the Red Queen/computer locks some of the people in a chamber and fills it with CO2 to suffocate them and quite frankly I would rather die by being smacked in the neck with a ruler( If I was a rat) Then again I know how much you adore your rodents but honestly CO2 isn't as humane as first believed I mean.. Living things need oxygen, if you fill a chamber with something other than air what happens? They suffocate. Just my two cents nothin on ya sweetie

[mykee]

Co2 is the preferred method of killing small rodents. It is THE most humane way (when done properly). There is plenty of research to back me up. I read most of it when I initially got into this hobby, now business.

[RoyalGuardian]

Suffocation only happens when you introduce too much Co2 too quickly and the carbon dioxide doesn't have a chance to "trickle" into the lungs, replacing the oxygen and causing SLEEP. Signs of a "bad kill" (or no patience on the users end) are choking and very deep, laboured breathing. Those of you who have witnessed these symptoms before, have witnessed a "bad kill". This type of behavior is not indicitive of the responsible herper.

.. replacing anything in the lungs is suffocation no matter how fast or slow you do it my friend. Then again CO2 is sometimes used by people to get high in the fact that if you inhale it you basically black out ( NEVER EVER EVER DO THAT!!!!! I had a friend do it once* then again he was an idiot and he was driving* and he crashed his car into an apartment.) Your "drowsiness" is more like passing out. Those of you who have experimented with duster know what it feels like.

[RoyalGuardian]

Please no infractions I was merely making an analysis built on my experience with idiot teenagers and CO2 canisters