Erythriphores in ball pythons discussion

[m00kfu]

I was always under that impression, but I don't remember why. Am I just wrong here? Is it common acceptance that ball pythons have erythriphor? If so why don't we ever see people selectively breeding for high red balls like we see for high yellow, or high contrast red snows? I would also think that an olive green project would be named an anery project if this was common knowledge. If this is the case, sorry for starting this thread, but at least I might learn some things. Please post your opinions or knowledge for me.

I think one of the big reasons is because there isn't as nearly as high of a percentage of ball breeders working on selective breeding as there are with other species. Let's face it, the majority of people out there breeding balls are just throwing whatever they can get together without any thought towards improving the looks. On top of that, the people that ARE doing some selective breeding, are more than likely working on multiple morph combo's, which always has a chance of muddying up whatever selective breeding you've done with the single morph.
As far as the reds go, I know there's a few people working with the burgundies, but don't really hear much about them. I think I remember reading somewhere that Kevin at NERD has been trying to selectively breed more red coloration into the ball pythons -- I believe that had something to do with the infernos.

[PythonWallace]

I think one of the big reasons is because there isn't as nearly as high of a percentage of ball breeders working on selective breeding as there are with other species. Let's face it, the majority of people out there breeding balls are just throwing whatever they can get together without any thought towards improving the looks. On top of that, the people that ARE doing some selective breeding, are more than likely working on multiple morph combo's, which always has a chance of muddying up whatever selective breeding you've done with the single morph.
As far as the reds go, I know there's a few people working with the burgundies, but don't really hear much about them. I think I remember reading somewhere that Kevin at NERD has been trying to selectively breed more red coloration into the ball pythons -- I believe that had something to do with the infernos.

I agree and understand that balls are sort of a different game altogether than most species when it comes to selective breeding. But there were decades where there wasn't much to work with (before the explosion of morphs) where I would think that selectively breeding would have resulted in some high reds, at least to the point where I would have heard that term when talking about ball pythons.

As far as Kevin working on high reds, is that through selective breeding, or is it through trying for 5 way combos using morphs that show a lot of oranges and pinks?