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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    I have a male bee that's possible het for albino, and am planning to try to prove it out next year, which has a very long shot of producing an albino bumble bee.

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    I think you are confused how the bee genetics work. Bees are just a spider pattern with the added color morph of something else. When you add the albino gene in there it will do the same thing every time with just a slight difference in the shade of color depending on the color morph its going against. A Cinnabee, Lesserbee, Honeybee, Bumblebee or Killerbee will all come out looking like this picture, but with a slight difference in the shade of color. plain and simple. Nothing crazy other than what a typical albino spider would look like. thats why it hasnt been done... err its already been done if you look at it from the other side. Its just not worth the effort.
    That's not true. Cinnamons, lessers, mojaves, butters, black pastels and probably a few others drastically change the spider pattern, so adding any of these to an albino spider will change the color and the pattern. Some of them will look significantly different than an albino spider. Even the subtle albino bee combos are worth the work for the power house breeders that can be produced.
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    I have a male bee that's possible het for albino, and am planning to try to prove it out next year, which has a very long shot of producing an albino bumble bee.



    That's not true. Cinnamons, lessers, mojaves, butters, black pastels and probably a few others drastically change the spider pattern, so adding any of these to an albino spider will change the color and the pattern. Some of them will look significantly different than an albino spider. Even the subtle albino bee combos are worth the work for the power house breeders that can be produced.

    The combos that he is speaking of (lesser, cinny, bumble, killer, honey) are not drastically different from a normal spider other than color. put them all together in the same tub and take a picture in black and white and i bet you wont be able to pick out which is which, (unless they are your own animals ofcourse). the differences between their pattern is so small. now the other combos using a spider like the mojave spider, spinner, motley, pewter ect would be a nice project. no doubt tho that nomatter which he chooses to make it will be a powerhouse. it just didnt seem like he was doing it for the powerhouse effect of it, but more of hopes of creating something that looked drastically different from what anyone else has done. by all means make one of each and prove me wrong, but i think if your doing it for the visual wow factor, then you will be disappointed.

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by evil mechanic View Post
    The combos that he is speaking of (lesser, cinny, bumble, killer, honey) are not drastically different from a normal spider other than color. put them all together in the same tub and take a picture in black and white and i bet you wont be able to pick out which is which, (unless they are your own animals ofcourse). the differences between their pattern is so small. now the other combos using a spider like the mojave spider, spinner, motley, pewter ect would be a nice project. no doubt tho that nomatter which he chooses to make it will be a powerhouse. it just didnt seem like he was doing it for the powerhouse effect of it, but more of hopes of creating something that looked drastically different from what anyone else has done. by all means make one of each and prove me wrong, but i think if your doing it for the visual wow factor, then you will be disappointed.
    You don't think albino cinnabees, albino lesser bees and albino butter bees will look drastically different than an albino spider? They all have completely unique patterns. I think any albino with a different pattern, like the cinnamon albino, have a huge wow factor visually.

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Quote Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    You don't think albino cinnabees, albino lesser bees and albino butter bees will look drastically different than an albino spider? They all have completely unique patterns. I think any albino with a different pattern, like the cinnamon albino, have a huge wow factor visually.

    http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ollection.html

    haha i thougt it was funny you sent me that link because i used that link to double checked my thoughts on those bees before i typed my last post to make sure i wasnt going crazy.

    anyways no i dont think they will look drastically different, and i dont think there is a drastic difference between the pattern of the cinny, lesser, bumble, killer and honeybees. a very slight difference in my eyes. the butterbee on that page has a different pattern though. they do have different head patterns. try to picture them with the colors of a normal spider.

    an albino cinny on its own is an amazing looking snake with the cinny pattern.
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Darn i should of kept my mouth shut on my idea to make this snake I say you dont know what you will make unless you have tryd, so dont just assume what it may come out looking like

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

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    Darn i should of kept my mouth shut on my idea to make this snake I say you dont know what you will make unless you have tryd, so dont just assume what it may come out looking like
    Noone is fighting dude! Im glad you brought it up.

    Anyways prove us wrong and make one of each.

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    I assumed it had been done before. Thanks for the thread. I'm just trying to figure out what the odds are of hatching one from my 50% poss het albino bee x het albino. I think 1/16 if the bee proves to be a het. With the pastel, like mech said, I don't know if I would be able to tell the difference between an albino spider and an albino bee. But I would definitely be able to tell an albino lesser bee, albino butter, bee, albino mojave bee and albino cinny bee apart.
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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    the pewter albino and cinnamon albino does look very cool looking. Would be interesting to see how a bee albino would turn out

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Hey,

    now there is a Bumblebee Albino (here in Germany)

    Does anyone know if there are more yet?

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    Re: Curious has a Albino Bumblebee been created

    Yes there is, Guy that has albino bee here in the states produced albino killerbee this year as well. Brian at BHB told me the name but forgot who it was

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