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    Can someone clear this up for me?

    OK, I'm trying to figure out pastel x cinnamon morphs, can someone help me simplify this?
    What is:
    Super Cinnamon = Pewter?
    Pastel/Cinnamon =
    Super Pastel/Cinnamon
    Pastel/Super Cinnamon
    Super Pastel/Super Cinnamon

    I've heard of silver streaks and such and am trying to figure each one out.
    I am a very visual person so if you want to post pictures of each, that would help!

    Also, Do these morphs have issues like the spider head wobble and the caramel kink?

    Thank you!!!
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    Re: Can someone clear this up for me?

    Pastel
    Cinnamon

    Super Pastel
    Super Cinnamon

    Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter
    Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling
    Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
    Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter
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    Re: Can someone clear this up for me?

    I have heard that the super cinnimons have some deformation of the head.

    Other then that I am not the greatest with genetics, others who are smarter then me would better equipped to answer the genetics questions.

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    Re: Can someone clear this up for me?

    Here are some pictures as well:


    Pastel - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...tel_jungle.htm
    Cinnamon - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/collection/cinnamon.htm

    Super Pastel - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
    Super Cinnamon - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...on-pastel.html

    Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/pewterbig.jpg
    Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1178477304.jpg
    Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm
    Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

    There are some great pictures in Greg Graziani's 2007 gallery: http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...hoto%20Gallary

    Super Cinnamons sometimes have what's called a "Platypus face" or "Duck-Bill", but I haven't heard of the wobble or regular/genetic kinking in Cinnys, Super Cinnys, Pastels, Super Pastels, or combos of those.
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    Re: Can someone clear this up for me?

    I'll cover the part that was not already covered.
    I've heard of silver streaks
    Silver streak is the result of Black Pewter X Pastel (no cinny involved but a Black Pastel)
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    Re: Can someone clear this up for me?

    THANK YOU!!!
    This is EXACTLY what I was looking for!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by LGL View Post
    Here are some pictures as well:


    Pastel - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...tel_jungle.htm
    Cinnamon - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/collection/cinnamon.htm

    Super Pastel - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
    Super Cinnamon - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...on-pastel.html

    Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/pewterbig.jpg
    Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1178477304.jpg
    Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm
    Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

    There are some great pictures in Greg Graziani's 2007 gallery: http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...hoto%20Gallary

    Super Cinnamons sometimes have what's called a "Platypus face" or "Duck-Bill", but I haven't heard of the wobble or regular/genetic kinking in Cinnys, Super Cinnys, Pastels, Super Pastels, or combos of those.
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    Re: Can someone clear this up for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Silver streak is the result of Black Pewter X Pastel (no cinny involved but a Black Pastel)
    Isn't a black pastel x pastel a black pewter (or just a pewter sometimes)?

    I thought silver streak is a super pastel black pastel?

    EDIT: NM, I re-read your post and realized we are saying the same thing.
    Casey

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