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Re: Confused
Hi,
 Originally Posted by PythonBreeder
You sure? Because that would still have 2 pastel genes together.
No it wouldn't. 
Only one half of the gene comes from each parent - so while a super pastel cannot pass on anything apart from a pastel gene it still can't pass on two copies of it.
Hence you get all pastels but no superpastels from breeding a superpastel to a normal.
dr del
Derek
7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.
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Re: Confused
Goto the Nerd site....they have a great lesson on genetics I wish we could get a copy to sticky on this site lol.
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Re: Confused
To produce Killer Bee's, which are Super Pastel Spiders...
Bumblebee x Pastel as stated above, or Bumblebee x Bumblebee...there are others that involve using the Killer Bee in the breeding, which seems pointless if that is what you are trying to produce.
-Austin
0.8 Normal 1.0 Pastel 0.0.1 Spider
1.1 Het Kahl BCI-08's-FS/T
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0.1 Citrus Beardie (Tang)
0.0.1 Rose Hair Tarantula (Rose)
0.1 Himalayan Cat (Meredith)
0.2 Persian Cats (Madison and Myrtle)
1.0 Shih-Tzu (Gizmo) 0.1 Lhasa-Apso (Lana)
Rats, ASF's, Turks & Dubias.
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Re: Confused
 Originally Posted by ThyTempest
To produce Killer Bee's, which are Super Pastel Spiders...
Bumblebee x Pastel as stated above, or Bumblebee x Bumblebee...there are others that involve using the Killer Bee in the breeding, which seems pointless if that is what you are trying to produce.
also super pastel x bumblebee
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Re: Confused
This has some very helpful info, make sure to click on 'More>>' in the bottom left of the page to continue to the next page.
http://ballpython.com/page.php?topic=genetically
This also has some very helpful info, at the bottom of the page you can continue onto Genetics 101, 201 and 301.
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/genetics_intro.html
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BPnet Veteran
Re: Confused
AS everyone else has explained and to make it easier is that when you breed a super pastel to normal you get all pastels and no supers. So when a spiders bred to super all would express just pastel not super and then some would be spider as well. So pastel is the heterozygous form of the homozygous super pastel and both parents have to be the heterozygous form to produce the homozygous super. Hope this helps a little.
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