Axanthic Super Pastel Spider (Killer Bee Axanthic)

[Superfictious]

So. I've looked through morphs, ooooh'd and awwwwe'd, and have finally decided that my favorite is the Killer Bee Axanthic. I'm just starting to look at the genetics, so I'd like some help, please.

I know that Killer Bees are Bumblebee + Pastel, so, to get Axanthic Killers, would you need a Bumblebee het Axanthic + Pastel Axanthic?

I'm assuming to get Pastel Axanthics, you breed Pastel + Axanthic.

How do you get Bumblebees het for Axanthic? Or would you just breed a Spider + Pastel Axanthic to get Bumblebees that are het Axanthic?

Thanks for any help. 8]

[BallPythons9]

So. I've looked through morphs, ooooh'd and awwwwe'd, and have finally decided that my favorite is the Killer Bee Axanthic. I'm just starting to look at the genetics, so I'd like some help, please.

I know that Killer Bees are Bumblebee + Pastel, so, to get Axanthic Killers, would you need a Bumblebee het Axanthic + Pastel Axanthic?

That would work, or it could be Bumblebee het Axanthic x Pastel het Axanthic

I'm assuming to get Pastel Axanthics, you breed Pastel + Axanthic.

Actually, it would be pastel het axanthic x axanthic or het axanthic

How do you get Bumblebees het for Axanthic? Or would you just breed a Spider + Pastel Axanthic to get Bumblebees that are het Axanthic?

That would work!

Thanks for any help. 8]

[Superfictious]

Oh wait. Pastel + Axanthic wouldn't work at all.

Pastel het Axanthic + Axanthic? @@

[Superfictious]

Ahh! Didn't see that right away, ha ha. Thank you for telling me. 8]
This would be a huuuuge project.

I didn't think about Pastel het axanthic! That would probably be easier to get, too.
Thank again.

[BallPythons9]

Glad to help!

[hoo-t]

It doesn't matter how you get there. You just need to end up with a snake that has the following traits - homozygous pastel, homozygous axanthic, and at least heterozygous spider.

Steve

[RandyRemington]

This is an example of where I think it's important to understand that the genotypes heterozygous and homozygous and how they apply beyond just recessive. Knowing that you need to make a homozygous pastel you can see that both parents must be at least heterozygous pastel. Likewise both parents must be at least heterozygous axanthic for the same reason. Knowing that you need to make a heterozygous spider you can see that only one parent is required to be at least heterozygous spider.

So the minimum parents that could make an axanthic killerbee would be bumble bee het axanthic x pastel het axanthic. Both of those parents could be produced from originally breeding a bumblebee to a homozygous axanthic. Still a daunting multi-generational project requiring some luck with the odds but I bet the results would be well worth it.

[eggman08]

The way i understand it to get a killer bee breed a super pastel x spider then breed the killer bee back to an axanthic and u should have a chance of getting a killer bee axanthic

[dr del]

Hi,

The way i understand it to get a killer bee breed a super pastel x spider then breed the killer bee back to an axanthic and u should have a chance of getting a killer bee axanthic

That wouldn't work I'm afraid.

Super pastel x spider gives you pastels and bumblebees - it cannot make a killerbee.

And a killerbee x axanthic would give you bumblebees and pastels all het for axanthic.


dr del

[eggman08]

Im not sure how to get the killer bee axanthic. But everything i have read says to get a killer bee breed a dominant spider x a dominant super pastel. And my friend uncle i a ball python breeder and that is how the got his killer bee. But to get a killer bee axanthic it might take a different approach to get it