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    Re: Hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRBrant View Post
    sorry i didnt even think about this, ill get some pictures up as soon as i can...
    -Brazilian Rainbow Boa (~24")
    -20 gallon long aquarium (covered back)
    -I have 2 hides
    -the temp is around 80-85... im not sure of my hot/cold zones because i only have one therm. at the moment
    -humidity is at 70%
    -cypress substrate
    -one 50watt daylight bulb on one end (~12 hours) and one 25 watt (taking it back for a 50 watt) blue night bulb on the other (~12 hours)

    ill repost this on the other thread too to avoid confusion.
    I didnt notice this before, but you should try to keep your humidity a little closer to 100% . Neonates need more humidity than adults. If you're having difficulty keeping humidity in the tank, I suggest moving your snake into a plastic tub until it's older and requires less humidity.

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    Re: Hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBP View Post
    I didnt notice this before, but you should try to keep your humidity a little closer to 100% . Neonates need more humidity than adults. If you're having difficulty keeping humidity in the tank, I suggest moving your snake into a plastic tub until it's older and requires less humidity.
    100%? I don't believe he has a neonate. That's just asking for a respiratory infection.
    Last edited by littleindiangirl; 03-15-2009 at 05:03 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    100%? I don't believe he has a neonate. That's just asking for a respiratory infection.
    That information is from a care sheet I received from Dave Colling when I purchased my BRB. I've kept him at that or at least close since I've had him and I haven't had any problems. Perfect sheds, no scale rot, and he eats every week.

    "Neonates require a much higher humidity level than adults and can be housed successfully on paper towels. With such high humidity comes mold, therefor attention must be kept to maintaining very clean cages. They should have free access to a large bowl of fresh water at all times(large enough to soak in). As adults they will usually drink large amounts of water and will not reuqire nearly as high relative humidity in their cages. . ."

    "Adult BRBs require a minumin humidity level of 75%+. Should humidity drop into the 60s or 50s for a extended period of time the results can be respiratory infections, regurgitation, and death by dehydration. . ."

    "Neonates should be kept at or near 95%+ humidity. I accomplish this with a fairly tight fitting shoebox rack. There's always condensation at the front. Temps for babies should be right around 77 degrees"

    As for whether it's a baby or not, It looked like one to me in his other thread and he says it's 24 inches.

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    Re: Hungry?

    right, it is about 24 inches or so... You can see some pictures of it in my thread "Getting a BRB this weekend"(click the small link to see more than just the one pic) to get a better idea of its real length/girth.

    the humidity is 70% at its lowest... i usually keep it at 75-80.

    heat: I am using a light bulb for the heat... i will go buy a heat lamp tomorrow. Should this be used in accordance to the day and night routine? 12 hours on 12 off?

    With the undertank heater: Would it get the glass hot enough for it to burn the snake? i didnt initially go that route because it was burying itself and was often directly on the glass.

    cover: i am using a screen cover with Plexiglas JB welded to the screen (covering approximately 80% of the top). However, I am thinking about making a new hood that can incorporate lighting, heating, tubing for an aerator, and easy access hinging for cleaning and handling.

    Substrate: i was going to start mixing the cypress with a tropical soil substrate and having a portion of the tank and one of the hides covered with sphagnum moss...

    Measuring Heat/humidity: i have one stick-on hygrometer and one stick-on thermometer strip-- both are placed in the center of the tank on the back wall. I am planning on getting the digital thermometer with the probe.

    Hides: There are two hides. One is pretty big and the snake does not touch on all sides-- it still goes in there occasionally and also climbs on top of it at night when it is more active. The other is a pretty intricate fake log that has two different chambers in it. It is much smaller and the snake seems to like that one alot more. I see it in there from time to time when it isnt buried under the substrate. It also climbs on this one at night.

    Sorry for the confusion by posting this in another thread... i wasnt sure if it would be seen because it seemed like the "hungry?" topic was solved and people might just overlook this thread.

    Opinions?

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    Re: Hungry?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBP View Post
    That information is from a care sheet I received from Dave Colling when I purchased my BRB. I've kept him at that or at least close since I've had him and I haven't had any problems. Perfect sheds, no scale rot, and he eats every week.

    "Neonates should be kept at or near 95%+ humidity. I accomplish this with a fairly tight fitting shoebox rack. There's always condensation at the front. Temps for babies should be right around 77 degrees"
    To each his own if it works right? I have read that caresheet too (I believe I link to it on my website), but I read other caresheets as well, and I never did find any others with this same high humidity reference, I just prefer to have more than one opinion when dealing with what I consider an extreme.

    I am of the belief that BRB's do well with high humidity, but that over doing it will often lead to more harm than good. I read it works well for you, so keep on.


    Quote Originally Posted by BRBrant
    heat: I am using a light bulb for the heat... i will go buy a heat lamp tomorrow. Should this be used in accordance to the day and night routine? 12 hours on 12 off?
    If you want to keep him on a light schedule that is fine, but generally ambient light from a window works well enough.

    With the undertank heater: Would it get the glass hot enough for it to burn the snake? i didnt initially go that route because it was burying itself and was often directly on the glass.
    ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS use a thermostat to control any heating element! Only this way can you be safe in knowing your temps will not burn your snake.

    They are the most important tool you will buy for your snakes welfare. Check out Reptilebasics.com. I have a the Johnson, Ranco and helix. All work wonderfully!

    cover: i am using a screen cover with Plexiglas JB welded to the screen (covering approximately 80% of the top). However, I am thinking about making a new hood that can incorporate lighting, heating, tubing for an aerator, and easy access hinging for cleaning and handling.
    Sounds like the top is good.

    Substrate: i was going to start mixing the cypress with a tropical soil substrate and having a portion of the tank and one of the hides covered with sphagnum moss...
    Moss is good to use for shedding purposes, but it can harbor bacteria and fungi if not changed often enough. I would stick with a mix of cypress, or another fiber that won't mold easily. I have no experience with soil substrate.

    Measuring Heat/humidity: i have one stick-on hygrometer and one stick-on thermometer strip-- both are placed in the center of the tank on the back wall. I am planning on getting the digital thermometer with the probe.
    Yes, a digital thermometer is good to own. Temp guns are also good to have on hand.


    Hides: There are two hides. One is pretty big and the snake does not touch on all sides-- it still goes in there occasionally and also climbs on top of it at night when it is more active. The other is a pretty intricate fake log that has two different chambers in it. It is much smaller and the snake seems to like that one alot more. I see it in there from time to time when it isnt buried under the substrate. It also climbs on this one at night.
    You can swap the larger hide for the water basin that goes under a flower pot. It's easy to knock out a hole if made of clay, plastic ones can be burn or cut out.


    If it is any consolation, my BRB's like to bury too when not given a hide. I think this may curb his burying, and you would know why.

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