Bad shed or scale rot??

[BanditNClyde]

So between 9 and 10.. you had someone come over and look at your snake AND it shed? I would really like to see some good pics of your snakes belly and neck after this miraculous shed.

and for you to say that didnt happen youre being way to critical. i know that if someone said all that youre saying to me about you, you would get pissy too.

[JeffJ]

She isn't really willing to take advice though... A board she posted not that long ago she got defensive with everyone giving her advice.

I'm just sick of people that are buying these BP's and all of a sudden become experts and don't need anyone's advice and are unintentionally hurting their snakes. They can buy expensive morphs but can't buy the proper equipment to take care of them... Your snakes should come first and foremost.

maybe so, but every one deserves to be talked to with a degree of respect. please remember that. we are not children here. And she is looking for advice she posted asking for our opinions on what we think it is not for criticism. and she has already stated that she is going to look into it as we have stated our opinions.

Why does every one have to jump on peoples backs these days? ive noticed allot of it in the past month.

with thats said. it does look bacterial or like scale rot. its not a burn thats for sure.

[Koolaid]

I, honestly, want to see pics of your snake now. You came on this board to ask advice... I think everyone besides 2 people said you need to get it checked out immediately because it looks like something serious i.e an infection, burn... so forth...

So instead you have a friend come over and check it out and all of a sudden your snake sheds and everything is all better? My snakes don't shed if I've bothered them in the 2 last hours haha... I mean they all wait until the middle of the night to do it. Maybe that is just my snakes, but I've had snakes for over 9 years and they've never done that.

Maybe you need to do some more research about ball python husbandry and get the correct equipment to take care of your snakes properly. I mean we have all made mistakes, but we are telling you how to correct it because we know what you need to do to fix it.

By chance, do you have an UTH?

[Koolaid]

And I don't mean to be super critical... I've just seen people not really give the same respect to their snakes as in other pets... like this one story I heard from my friend... this person gave a bath to their snake and it cooked to death... I don't know what it is lately but I've been hearing about a lot of unnecessary ball python deaths...

[JeffJ]

I, honestly, want to see pics of your snake now and your setups for all your snakes. You came on this board to ask advice... I think everyone besides 2 people said you need to get it checked out immediately because it looks like something serious i.e an infection, burn... so forth...

So instead you have a friend come over and check it out and all of a sudden your snake sheds and everything is all better? My snakes don't shed if I've bothered them in the 2 last hours haha... I mean they all wait until the middle of the night to do it. Maybe that is just my snakes, but I've had snakes for over 9 years and they've never done that.

Maybe you need to do some more research about ball python husbandry and get the correct equipment to take care of your snakes properly. I mean we have all made mistakes, but we are telling you how to correct it because we know what you need to do to fix it.

By chance, do you have an UTH?

Bold: is that a fact eh? basted on what? my ball sheds during the day. last time it was at 5:30 PM i got home he had his nose started i picked him up because he had a huge turd in there. cleand it. put him back and he finished his shied. he was trying to shed in my hands i had to put him in a tub because he was moving to much. every snake is different.

Yes they may need to touch some stuff up, but lets guide them then

and if your reference to the UTH was because you suspect a burn that does not look like any burn i had seen.

[Koolaid]

Bold: is that a fact eh? basted on what? my ball sheds during the day. last time it was at 5:30 PM i got home he had his nose started i picked him up because he had a huge turd in there. cleand it. put him back and he finished his shied. he was trying to shed in my hands i had to put him in a tub because he was moving to much. every snake is different.

Yes they may need to touch some stuff up, but lets guide them then

and if your reference to the UTH was because you suspect a burn that does not look like any burn i had seen.

No not a fact... it's based on what I've seen with my snakes... BP's, corns and kingsnakes... At night before I go to bed I spot clean to make sure they have enough water and there is no poop and shed... Usually as I walk by the racks in the morning you can see the shed sitting in there.

I was wondering if she had an UTH because she said her thermometer was an inch above the bottom of the tank.

Anywho... I don't mean to jump on anyone's back... just making sure your snakes are happy and healthy-that's all.

[JeffJ]

No not a fact... it's based on what I've seen with my snakes... BP's, corns and kingsnakes... At night before I go to bed I spot clean to make sure they have enough water and there is no poop and shed... Usually as I walk by the racks in the morning you can see the shed sitting in there.

I was wondering if she had an UTH because she said her thermometer was an inch above the bottom of the tank.

Anywho... I don't mean to jump on anyone's back... just making sure your snakes are happy and healthy-that's all.

its good that we all care, thats what makes this place so great!

as for a UTH and the probe being above the substrate. i agree that worries me as well. unless of course she is like me and use a temperature gun to measure surface temp.

pictures of her enclosure with temp, humidity readings and how she is metering them might help us give her a solider idea of what the scale issue could be.

[Skiploder]

So between 9 and 10.. you had someone come over and look at your snake AND it shed? I would really like to see some good pics of your snakes belly and neck after this miraculous shed.

Uncalled for. A vet wouldn't even try to diagnose an animal from blurry picutres over the net.

So you disagree with her choice of substrate and her choice of gauge - that means that you're going to treat her with sarcasm and disrespect?

I, honestly, want to see pics of your snake now. You came on this board to ask advice... I think everyone besides 2 people said you need to get it checked out immediately because it looks like something serious i.e an infection, burn... So forth...

So instead you have a friend come over and check it out and all of a sudden your snake sheds and everything is all better? My snakes don't shed if I've bothered them in the 2 last hours haha... I mean they all wait until the middle of the night to do it. Maybe that is just my snakes, but I've had snakes for over 9 years and they've never done that.

Maybe you need to do some more research about ball python husbandry and get the correct equipment to take care of your snakes properly. I mean we have all made mistakes, but we are telling you how to correct it because we know what you need to do to fix it.

By chance, do you have an UTH?

Wow - demanding that she prove something to you - nice. Topped of by a condemnation of her husbandry in general. All based on your expert diagnosis of a few blurry pics. You are doing a fine job of upholding this site's reputation as a friendly, helpful place.

To the OP: I have several snakes that before a shed, will tend to be more susceptible to discoloration from laying on lumps or bumps in the substrate or on a branch, etc. Snakes kept on paper substrate usually don't show these markings or discoloration.

Scale rot has a very definite look to it, as do thermal burns. In the future, if you really suspect rot, save yourself the guesswork and potshots and take your animal to the Vet. Not all the advice you get here will be helpful or correct and even a trusted Vet will most likely show some restraint and not try to diagnose an animal over a few pictures.

[Buttons]

that aint no shed, its scale rot look at it its brown.

It's a pretty blurry picture but 2 weeks ago my BP was in blue and had what looked very much like scale rot and I waited till s/he shed and it's all cleared up now. Could just be something caused by the substrate.

[JeffJ]

It's a pretty blurry picture but 2 weeks ago my BP was in blue and had what looked very much like scale rot and I waited till s/he shed and it's all cleared up now. Could just be something caused by the substrate.

thats highly possible. but she asked for an opinion and i gave it to her by no means makes me correct. but if it still looks funny id go to the vet of course.