help

[Bruce Whitehead]

because i have never tried plastic im not familiar with it i'm familiar with glass, and why do i have to explain myself to you all i asked for was advice on how to make a good looking snake and you think just because you say im not ready for it im not gonna do it, i didnt ask for smart remarks i asked for help so if you dont wanna help i dont really wanna hear it k, thanks

Rocky,

What is happening is that you are asking questions that insinuate that you are new to BPs, so therefore people are assuming that you are not at the stage where you should be considering breeding.

First comes top notch husbandry (and lots of research)... then come lots more research... then comes a second snake... then lots more research... then breeding.

Tubs are preferred as it is easier for most people to maintain proper husbandry in them. It can be done in tanks, but IMHO that falls into "advanced husbandry". Most people start with tanks, and may succeed, but it is a lot more work.

And it involves are a complete knowledge of husbandry, how to achieve it, and what the limitations are.

As well as concrete knowledge about your snake. Their communication is not verbal. If the snake is thriving in optimal conditions, then that is a SUCCESS!!! Anything short and your work is not close to being done.
That help?

Bruce

[Slim]

hi i have a normal and i need help with tank setup. do the most healthy snakes come from plastic tubs or does it matter, about to breed any suggestions please

Here you say you need help with tank set up......

who says i cant take care of my python. everything in my setup is perfect size temp humidity etc etc.... i have a good snake no problem eating sheds perfect, very healthy

Here you say you have a perfect set up......

because i have never tried plastic im not familiar with it i'm familiar with glass, and why do i have to explain myself to you all i asked for was advice on how to make a good looking snake and you think just because you say im not ready for it im not gonna do it, i didnt ask for smart remarks i asked for help so if you dont wanna help i dont really wanna hear it k, thanks

Do you want to know how to set up a tank, or a tub. When you say tank, we think glass. When you say tub, we think plastic.

You say you want advice on how to make a "good looking snake", but that is a breeding question, not a husbandry question. Lucky for you, we have a forum for both those here on the ole' BPnet.

And last but certainly not least, please try to use the english language in such a way that we can understand what you are trying to communicate. A period at the end of a sentence may be a bridge too far, but it would be nice.

[DutchHerp]

And last but certainly not least, please try to use the english language in such a way that we can understand what you are trying to communicate. A period at the end of a sentence may be a bridge too far, but it would be nice.

I knew you'd pitch in on this! I KNEW IT!

[Slim]

I knew you'd pitch in on this! I KNEW IT!

Over 10,000 members on BPnet, and at least 4,296 of them KNOW this is a hot button issue with me

[Bruce Whitehead]

...at least 4,296 of them KNOW this is a hot button issue with me

I think it is 4,297 now.

Bruce

[rocky88]

yes helped alot, thank you, and i have my glass setup exactly were it needs to be, dont mean to sound arrogant but everything is perfect, temp hum, feeding, shed, etc. and was just wanting to switch to plastic because this glass setup is alot of work. so it seems there were alot of mis-understanding. i want to get a snake soon, not breed soon i just want to get a snake that will breed with my normal and make a good looking snake. i was going to get one tomarrow but it was just another normal and changed my mind. i just want someone to give me a website of a good breeder so i can look at snakes that i can breed with my normal. i will buy it soon but not breed for about a year ( until my normal is of age) and by then i will have enough experience to breed. now please can someone just tell me how to setup a plastic and give me a website of good breeders so i can find a good snake that i can keep for a while till my normal is ready to breed. thats all i really wanted, instead of assuming i was going to bread right away you should have just asked. im sorry for any misunderstanding, can someone please help!!!!!!!!!! much appreciated, thank you!!!!!!!

[Slim]

I think it is 4,297 now.

Bruce

I know I have a rep for being harsh and nasty, but hey, I'm just an umpire...I call balls and strikes

[frankykeno]

Not to belabor a point here but you typed "about to breed" so we did not assume anything. We can only go off what you provide us so perhaps you might want to spend more time being a little more clear in your wording rather than starting a ton of threads at one time and expecting us to know what you mean even when you don't type it clearly. Just a thought.

[Slim]

yes helped alot, thank you, and i have my glass setup exactly were it needs to be, dont mean to sound arrogant but everything is perfect, temp hum, feeding, shed, etc. and was just wanting to switch to plastic because this glass setup is alot of work. so it seems there were alot of mis-understanding. i want to get a snake soon, not breed soon i just want to get a snake that will breed with my normal and make a good looking snake. i was going to get one tomarrow but it was just another normal and changed my mind. i just want someone to give me a website of a good breeder so i can look at snakes that i can breed with my normal. i will buy it soon but not breed for about a year ( until my normal is of age) and by then i will have enough experience to breed. now please can someone just tell me how to setup a plastic and give me a website of good breeders so i can find a good snake that i can keep for a while till my normal is ready to breed. thats all i really wanted, instead of assuming i was going to bread right away you should have just asked. im sorry for any misunderstanding, can someone please help!!!!!!!!!! much appreciated, thank you!!!!!!!

We misunderstood, because you miscommunicated. That's on you, not us.

I would suggest you take your breeding question to the breeding forum, as that is the proper place for it. Also, I might suggest you go though and read some of the old threads in the breeding and the BP Morphs section. Most of your answers will be taken care of if you put in a little work and read throught the old posts.

As for a tub set up, do you want to set up a tub with a lid that will stand alone, or do you want to set up tubs in a rack system. The inside set up for either tub will be the same, but the heating will be different.

Inside the tub, all you need are a couple of hides, cool side / warm side, and a water bowl. Substrate can be anything you want, but newspaper is very common and easy to take care of.

If you want to use a rack, most come with built in heat that you will want to controll with a T-Stat. For stand alone tubs, you can use a UTH on a T-Stat.

[Bruce Whitehead]

One thing about forums, especially in the middle of the night... not a lot of people around.

Pick the one thing is most important. Ask that ONE thing. And give it a few days. Let the thread gain some momentuum and let some dialogue happen.

Seems you want some quick answers, when you are asking complex questions.

I studied genetics intensively for a good year before deciding what morph I wanted to get as myfirst. By the time I made the decision I had read about them, knew the combos they could produce, and I knew what made a good one and a bad one.

I was a very savvy shopper by the time I purchased something beyond my first normal male.

You started a thread on "good looking snake"... some options on doms and codoms were given.

Take that as a starting point, google those, read up on the morphs listed, look at pics, ask questions, etc.

It is not a quick process, and you are asking multiple questions.

As well... in each forum, at the top you will find STICKIES... these threads contain most of the information you are asking for.

I.e. BP Husbandry has stickies in it on how to set up an optimal tank and tub.

Read them, research them, and then ask questions.

You will be able to make sense of the answers you get if you have some base, rather than just expecting people to be able to lay it out for you.

It took me 4 months to get my first BP's ensclosure optimal. But I spent alot of time and energy on it, and now setting up a BP can take me less than five minutes. But that is because I researched, read, and did the hands on.

Bruce

yes helped alot, thank you, and i have my glass setup exactly were it needs to be, dont mean to sound arrogant but everything is perfect, temp hum, feeding, shed, etc. and was just wanting to switch to plastic because this glass setup is alot of work. so it seems there were alot of mis-understanding. i want to get a snake soon, not breed soon i just want to get a snake that will breed with my normal and make a good looking snake. i was going to get one tomarrow but it was just another normal and changed my mind. i just want someone to give me a website of a good breeder so i can look at snakes that i can breed with my normal. i will buy it soon but not breed for about a year ( until my normal is of age) and by then i will have enough experience to breed. now please can someone just tell me how to setup a plastic and give me a website of good breeders so i can find a good snake that i can keep for a while till my normal is ready to breed. thats all i really wanted, instead of assuming i was going to bread right away you should have just asked. im sorry for any misunderstanding, can someone please help!!!!!!!!!! much appreciated, thank you!!!!!!!