Here is a picture of my '08 male spider BP and my '08 female pastel BP that I recently got from Adam at 8Ballpythons the day I brought them home. The male spider is exactly what I wanted (reduced pattern and high white sides). The spider was one of his hold backs that he was nice enough to let me have (Thanks Adam). The female pastel was also one of his hold backs (the only one he had left that he was going to keep I beleive) and has a very cool pattern IMO. They both ate the first week I had them and both settled in very quickly (Thanks Adam for parting with her too). Also, Adam was nice enough to meet up with me on the day he was heading to the white plains which reduced stress on the snakes from shipping, saved me money on shipping and gave me the opportunity to meet and talk with Adam face to face. Adam also tried to give me a freebie but I couldn't accept it. It honestly felt like I was getting over on a friend and that is not the type of person I am (FYI: The freebie was not a normal male or normal female and was one I asked about and that I very much needed, and still do, badly). The freebie thing was just to let people who don't know Adam how nice and cool of a person he is. Anyway, let me hop off of the Adam bandwagon and you guys can let me know what you think of my two new additions Thanks!!!