Quote Originally Posted by Colin Vestrand View Post
corns aren't rear fanged or venomous... none of the Elaphe/Pantherophis/Pituophis are from what i've read. even some of the other colubrids that do have a Duvernois gland don't have enlarged rear maxillary teeth.
anyone else like reading scientific papers for fun or am i the only nerd in this thread?

*slinks off to study as well.............
Colin you're right. Fry has stated that with the exception of elaphe, pseudelaphe, pantherophis, pituophis, lampropeltis and their like, all colubrids produce venom.

However, not all of the remaining venom producing colubrid genera are opistoglyphic.

.......and to further what's all ready been stated - pantherophis are neither venomous or rear-fanged.

Reading scientific papers is fun..........reading the forums, however, can be infinitely more entertaining.