are these balls worth this price asked?

[Pythonman]

Even the big dog breeders who spay/neuter all pets before homing, and have strict rules, regulations and contracts for adopters of unaltered animals, still occasionally end up with their lines being used by yucky breeders. No matter what you do, you cannot guarantee the lives of your animals once they leave your home.

EXACTLY!!!!!!, but they make the effort to write the contracts and attempt to protect their lines..and they will tell a family or person looking to buy their puppies that they cannot if they do not think the person is right for the dog, They'll choose to turn down $$$ in order to make sure each of their puppies goes to a GOOD HOME, not just one with "albino" money...and yes I do think that if people didn't mass produce these things there would be less of them in dirty cages...do you really need hundreds of albinos, pieds, whatever...I doubt it but you want the $$$...so yes big breeders share some of the responsibility...and no it's not ONE question. THAT is your problem...It wouldn't be an easy fix and so you wouldn't do it and would require a little more work on the side of the breeder, which snake breeders aren't willing to do...It would have to be a line of questions, poss a phone or in person interview, a reference or two god forbid from a vet saying this person takes good care of his current and past animals....No you can not guarantee the lives once they leave your home, but you don't have to sell them to the old biker guy with a beard who clearly has no clue what he's doing...but you want his $$ and you'll worry about what he does with his snake later..Somebody had the first pieds, albinos, mojave, whatever and they sold it to someone who mass produced them and now the price dropped, there all over, and in the hands of irresponsible breeders..I remember as a kid hearing how rare and expensive the albino ball pythons were.Talk about taking advantage of a group of animals..People must have bought multiple houses off those things...And when you make that kind of money on something it's in your best interest as well as that of the entire bp species to be very selective picking sellers with rare animals..And don't yoiu think it's respectful of the species to find GOOD homes, not just homes with "albino" money....YES I think it's about time big breeders stop pointing fingers unless its at each other and start accepting that the reason there are so many BP's in bad conditions is bc THEY mass produced them...I know for a fact that no big breeders look into where their snakes are going in any kind of real way...Someone emails them, paypals them, and they send the snake...

Sputnik,
Make all the excuses for them that you want...They have time to scrutinize their perspective buyers...and if they don't then they need to rethink their business plan. You dont see people with Best In Show Dogs asking how many females their dog can inseminate in one seasons to "maximize" their male hahha.. they protect their lines..The way the BP world is today it probably is unreasnable to ask them to look into all their buyers...but thats because as you all have shown, it's accpeptable to sell to any old joe. You're selling "in good faith" lol! Wake up...Thats called..."Im selling it and I don't want to be responsible for what happens once it leaves my hands"....And it is a free country and you have the RIGHT to sell/conduct business with whomever you choose to, but you also have the right to refuse to sell...remember those signs, no shirt, no shoes, no service...ya thats because as long as it's not based on race, religion, or gender you can refuse to sell your snakes to someone for whatever reason you want, especially if you think they will not be a good home for your snake...thats the true meaning of a free country..


I"M SORRY FOR EXPECTING MORE FROM THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF BP WORLD INSTEAD OF THOSE OUTSIDE THE GATES WAITING TO GET INTO BP WORLD!!!!
Very easy to point fingers and play the "well I didn't know he was an irresponsible breeder" game. Much harder to take responsibility for your actions and the sales you CHOSE to make.

And just for the record..I've never said it's ok to sell or leave animals in dirty cages...My cages are always clean in my house, but to say that the guy shouldn't go drive and check out a good deal he saw on craigslist is crazy for me..esp if he knows BP's and can pick out a good deal from a scam...Pictures and words are not all that we have..we have phones and refrerences!! these are soooo much better for picking out places to potentially get your snakes. Get them on the phone see how fast the answers come, does he studder, or do anything else that makes you think he's being less that tuthful..Then find a reference that you TRULY trust...If you can't...then don't buy...