There is a guy who owns a local shop were I live. He dose not work with Balls at all (other then selling CH normals), and he has a female spider in his shop. He has had the thing for about 3 months (asking 1,499.00), I know I giggled alittle when i saw the price. So i went down there and asked the guy who was working if he thought the owner would be interested in a trade. I told him the snakes Im willing to part with are one of my male breeder pastels, 1.1 albino het, or this really cool looking I think normal with a great reduced pattern and green/olive colored eyes. He hasent said if he wants to trade yet but what do you guys think, I am not trading all 4 for the spider but I would do 2 or 3 depending on the group or pair he wants.