again thank you all i now truely know how great this site is. you are all very informative, half of this i would not of thought of. you guys rock. the chaos with the kids i thought of. just having three kids its a fight to see who gets a better view of feeding time. and the other two are younger then my son. so it will diffenetly be two finger petting at thier tables for the last part of the talk. i just really have to do my home work about snakes in the wilds habits and how to break it down to them. its easy with my kids because thier around it all the time, some of these kids may not even have a pet. Letting them pick a potential name should be cute..