My big AfRock girl has been sent back to the breeder I had gotten her from today. I decided this because she's just way too defensive to use for breeding, and she's messing her face up bad. She seem's to have the need to smash her face into the cage trying to get me everytime I walk into the room. About this though...the breeder who I got her from breed's AfRocks. Well this breeder had gotten my pair of burm's from when I enlisted in the ARMY. Well I'd like to get my burms back. It doesn't seem like he's budging much on making any kind of deal with me to get them back. Could any of you offer me any advice toward's maybe talking him into getting my Burms back, or did I lose them permanently?