I don't think anyone is trying to be narrow minded.. When you see this same post almost once a day and have experienced it yourself I think the whole cage/tub debate goes out the window.. I admire your PC nature Boge, but I also think its vague and leads to people believe they are doing the right thing when sometimes they aren't.. This place can quickly become an echo chamber for poor practices and diverting attention from the topic only re-enforces that..