Pat is pretty laid back. About the only time he really moves when I'm cleaning his cage is if i bump his perch. Then he wakes up and usually follows my hand flicking his tongue at it for a little bit, then gets bored of it and curls back up lol. I havent tried removing him and the perch yet. I'll wait until he puts on some size. No rush for me as i never bought him with the intention of having an animal to 'play' with. I got fat Caesar and the boas if i want something to drag around and bother lol.
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