Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
I'd question wether snakes stacked up in small containers in racks are 'happy' to be honest.

Have a Royal / Ball in a Viv /rub with a hide ( preferably two ) and a water dish and it's fair to say you won't see much of them ...

Add some branches and fake foliage and the same Royal will be out roaming and climbing for hours every evening .

I prefer the latter if only as they're be getting some exercise . .. I also think they're happier climbing and slithering around or else they wouldn't bother and just stay in their hides ..


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We are going to have to agree to disagree on this. They are not human. To assign human thought processes and or needs is a mistake in my opinion. I observe the behaviors of these animals a lot. My snakes are handled often and are out of their tubs a lot. When out of their tubs they will exhibit one of two behaviors. The shy ones "run" and will find the smallest darkest place they can find to hide in. The "better adjusted ones" are content to sit around my neck, lay where I put them, or play horse for my daughter's barbies. Males are more active than females and will climb given the opportunity but it is not because they are bored. They are looking for females or they are hungry. Ball pythons are feast/famine animals. As such they will only expend energy when they have to. I have yet to see an adult female attempt to climb. When given a choice they will go down rather than up. Most of my girls are heavy bodied animals. They are not built to climb, move fast, or move far.