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    If I could find the blogpost about it i'd post it but it seems to have disappeared from the realm of the internet. The all white snake is, what is believed to be, the super spider. A little background, it has been more or less accepted that the spider mutation has occured twice in two types of pythons. The carpet python and the ball python being the jaguar and spider morphs respectively. The jaguar carpet python has the same tendency to wobble just like the spider and the super jaguar carpet is a homozygous lethal which results in a dead leucistic snake. From what I remember, the dead white snake fails to develop lungs and as a result dies. There are no known living super jaguars. Now there has been cases of white snakes occuring from spider x spider but it is extremely rare for the embryo to even hit that stage it seems.

    As for that report, I haven't read it in a while but from what I remember the conclusion is inconclusive and that it doesn't not create a controlled enviornment to determine which spiders are affected by the wobble. i.e. A default environment that all the tested snakes will be kept in and monitored. It also just takes people's account of their spiders not taking into account how those spiders are kept and the individual keeper's hunsbandry practices. I mean, they asked 100 people and only 13 responded and who knows how they keep their snakes. It is known that environment is a big factor in how bad the wobble manifests in that a spider that shows virtually no wobble can have the worst wobble ever if the husbandry isn't to the T. Imo that report should
    be thrown out and not taken as fact due to the lack of the scientific method. It is based of a questionaire with no real evidence being presented.

    Again, spiders do great, have no problems thriving and, if anything, it is a visual indicator of stress imo. I have yet to hear of a spider actually dying from the wobble alone. Most of the time when I hear a spider can't, it's either the ownrr just being impatient to let the spider figure out where the rat is after it constricts. A spider isn't dumb and still knows how to eat, even though it looks wonky or takes it a bit longer than the rest. My spider does the little wobble while it attempts to swallow but it still eats faster than some of my non-wobblers who lose track of the rat and spend like half an hour trying to find it.

    To reiterate, there's nothing inheritly wrong with the spider from a thriving and quality of life standpoint. Non-wobblers that have a wobble tend to do a lot worse than the mutations that have wobbles.
    Last edited by Seven-Thirty; 02-25-2017 at 08:21 PM.

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