I truly appreciate your efforts, Zincubus, in not being antagonistic. I know this subject is near and dear to your heart as you are very passionate about your stance. Personally, I actively promote the right of a keeper to choose. I'm not sure if you consider me part of your "hassle" but when I see a person trying to bully or shame folks into thinking their way is the only/right way, I'll gladly offer some pros for the other side. There are merits for either "argument" but I doubt this particular horse could get any deader.