So i got in a giant argument with a person i don't know on the internet last night. For some reason they really pushed my buttons and i kept coming back to it. It started because I jokingly posted that I would start a crowdfunding project to buy a female banana i saw on morph market so i can get her AND the black head i was already planning on getting. This person responded saying "i hope your joking, people use crowdfunding for necessities". I made the mistake of instigating the argument by giving a response that said I was indeed joking, that i they dont necessarily know my motives and i could want the snake for business or mental health or something, and that crowdfunding was made so someone can put out a goal and then other people can choose to give money or not. This started a really long and time wasting argument between me and some person about this. We both made mistakes, them not knowing how the banana gene worked and saying it was "VERY rare for a female to hatch at all", me saying that morphmarket is more popular than kingsnake or fauna based on recommendations i usually see on here. All in all, the argument boiled down to a few key points which i will summarize here.

They said i was selfish and in me posting the crowdfunding for a new snake i was taking away the opportunity for people to get help when they actually need it. I mention that there are different categories, so it wont be next to actual health/necessity needs they would be by things such as goals for trips etc, and that many of the necessities were scams anyway (id like to see a study on how much are scams and how much arent, i personally do contribute to some i see on the news or from friends/internet friends). I also say that i am putting a goal out there and other people are choosing to give money to that cause and i shouldn't be called selfish for it just making it known that that is what i was working toward and saying that i will accept donations. They called me a beggar and said that it was not other peoples responsibility to pay for my snake, in which my response was that I didnt expect anyone to pay for it it would be nice if i got some help but i wasnt expecting anything, meaning i wasnt making it a responsibility (which i have issue with even saying donating toward needs/necessities is a responsibility because really it boils down to choice) it would just help me get a snake faster than planned.

They said the ball market is dead so making money off of it is not a thing (aka that i would lose a decent amount of money). They then used the fact that they breed corns as an example, I said that it was just an example on "why" to crowdfund not that i necessarily cared about making money. Also I said that breeders do make some money especially if they have multiple gene offspring, but again, that i dont care about making money. I then mention that the corn and ball market/ prices are tough to compare because they dont have the same prices or demand.

From this there spawned a discussion about Banana's specifically. They said that they have seen many males for < 100$ and that they will lose all their value (have already begun) and females will sell for 150 with a max of 200 in a year or two and males would be < 100 (and that they already are). I didnt believe them, even at local prices about the males <100. The absolute lowest ive seen a single gene male banana go for is 199$ and i could see a 150$ from local. but under 100$? Is this an actual price that bananas are at in places? They arent that price in my market at all going from 175-250+ for single gene depending.

There was also mention about "if you cant afford owning a snake you shouldnt buy it". I responded by saying i have money for the vet, i had extra food, i had extra enclosures/heat, and i was talking specifically about the face value of the snake because I was also buying a black head soon and wanted to get both at a similar time which, as yall probably know, a banana and a black head together can get pricey. I also have the potential to get the snake at a later date (like money wise), in this theoretical scenario i was just joking that posting the crowd funding to get the snake faster than i could by myself (not that i couldnt afford it).

TLDR; I wanted to have an actual discussion about this in a non heated environment. Many things were said (including them accusing me of loving bhb and snakebytetv, saying i shouldnt breed because i didnt know the market, and me saying they were misinformed about the banana gene and prices) so i figured id post it here in a non heated environment for some actual discussion. My questions are, would it be selfish to post a gofundme about getting a snake baby (or any other herp)? is it right to get a snake using someone else's gifts? Is the ball market dead? Is there such things as a banana < 100$? What do you think about kingsnake vs morph vs fauna? any other comments on this topic (other than how i was an idiot for fighting about a fictional scenerio with a stranger for a long time... i already know that )?