:shock: Well, over the last couple of years that I have been into snakes I must admit that I have gotten into the habit of letting them lay on my shoulders around my neck ( ! ) while I perform their husbandry chores. I have seemingly gotten away with this up until the last time I let my big male Apok drape around my neck. Apok has been feeding on rats and I think he is feeling his cheerios or something because he flexed his musculature and man....it felt like something indeed serious around my neck....I mean no B.S. it was tight - I immediately uncoiled him and it was not the easiest thing to do. I looked at him with new respect as I could see how powerful a sub adult Ball Python can be - Now I understand how dangerous a large Retic or Burm could potentially be if they got around you - I must admit that I feel stupid what with Apok giving me a good wakeup call :roll: but I will tell you that a good size BP can constrict very tightly around your neck so learn from my mistake and dont do it...!!!!

Okay you can all chastise me now...I am ready for it...

EyeLashViper :?