What can I say, Im in love! I didnt expect what I was about to see when I opened that box from NERD. What a powerful and gorgeous looking animal Kara sent me. After letting him get room temp (82) for biu 45 min. I opened his container and gently pet him to let him know I was there, that toung started flicking he was so alert and calm at the same time. I gently picked him up and to my suprise he had to be about 20 inches and thicker than I could have imagined from the pics Kara sent us. He accepted my handling like an ace. I wholeheartedly recomend anybody thinking of another snake to consider a short tail from Kara you will get more than you pay for!!