Weinkeg: The proof is in those BOI threads. Someone bought a skink and killed it with force feeding a pinky and tried to extort for cash. Same with a viper boa someone cooked on a heat pad. So the proof is in those threads you are talking about. You try to force something you are not entitled to from someone with threats, and that's extortion regardless if you see it differently. I cannot buy a skink and choke it with a rodent and then threaten someone for another or that would be criminal. But there's forums out there that encourage that sort of crime whether you believe it or not. Some folks even are tricked to pay into such forums. It's a scam is all and the only one laughing is the guy at the end collecting people's money to pay to argue.