Need some id,two nice looking guys

[AiMangZhe]

I just saw two nice looking dinker last night in our reptile forum,pxtx.
They are from a hobbyist(panda203040) in Beijing,and I am also curious about them,so I put the pics on here.
The 1st one has a yellow faded side color,and the 2nd has a carzy granite & black back looking
1st young
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little older
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closer

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hunting
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the 2nd!(right)
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I have no idea about the 1st,the 2nd,like I said,I think it's a unproven granite that is very likely to be genetic.
So,what's your opinion?
ps:IF the pics haven't show,these is a link:http://www.flickr.com/photos/9329060...th/8528489696/