Hi sorry for the late response. I got my hermanns from turtle source. They cost a but more but they have a great reputation with the quality of their tortoises. My little guy was eating from the day he came out of the ups box. I have bought 2 other aquatic turtles from them and they are all healthy as horses. They are all about 4 yrs now


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