I guess that the only way you can get quality herp supplies is to shop online. I guess it's probably cheaper to buy stuff directly anyway, but I just don't want to wait for it! Every pet store in my area carries Zoo-Med exclusively like it's a great product. All it's got going for it is nice looking packaging. And it's expensive for the quality that you get! I even tried Craigslist, but nothing. I am meeting with the guy who is going to build my rack on Saturday, and he said he just needs a t-stat and heating. I want to get a better one before I install it to my brand new rack... I had the same problem when we had mites, I was so wishing that some store carried PAM so that I wouldn't have to wait a week- but only Zoo-Med! Why doesn't anyone carry quality supplies? (Sorry, just a little rant...)