Its either buy these fires (possible fires) for $375 or a pewter proven breeder male for the same price. The guy selling the fires is selling them as fires, he is not a breeder they were his pets. He got them from a breeder that was an ex coworkers boyfriend. Obviously the 2 fires would be a better deal, but the pewter deal isnt bad and comes with less stress But the deal is way too good to pass on the fires (if they are fires) because they are like 700g male and 900g female...