Quote Originally Posted by josh@outbackreps View Post
Wow!!

I am glad people like Joe know it all !!

The true on these babies bags have been posted in other threads on her in the past, and I have gone over great detail on imports in general.

Just to be clear :

There are no mites in Africa!

C.H Babies do not have ticks either, they are not in the wild, the are hatched in a "captive" situation in West Africa. Being a loose term this could mean a large incubation room at a exporters facility, or it could be a large pit/ dug out area with damp bedding for the eggs to hatch. Either way they are not crawling around getting ticks or parasites. They hatch and are shipped generally before they are 3-4 days old.

These animals feed very well, and when compared to domestic have about the same feeding response and growth rates. The big perk on these animals is they introduce new bloodlines to existing animals on the market.

On the subject of them being picked threw in Africa : We have never stated that these baby bags will have ghost, albinos,pieds, phantoms, or anything like that. That would be stupid to say, the collectors in Africa are there to make money.
If a animal is visual that they see it being crazy then they will sell it as a special. ($50,000 not so much..)

What you can get in the baby bags is nice broken stripes, dark aberrant animals, granites, yellow bellies, high golds, odd patterns and a lot of potential morph animals. Potential morphs being animals that are different but not know what they might really be.

By sending out aberrant and fancy animals in the normal groups they are creating their own demand for their product. Baby ball volume increases by people wanting to get to see whats in the unopened bag. Letting a few nice animals go when packing bags makes sense for the exporter as it creates a demand for babies, and specials as well.

As for the bags here, babies come in at around 2500-4500 per order.


With them comes 500 Savannah's, 200 Niles, 200 fat tails, and a 100 or chameleons. The time it takes to sort soak and set up all the lizards, and fancy balls alone is back breaking. When 2500-4500 babies come in we pull the bags from the crate, (unopened) smell the bag to make sure there are no obvious DOA animals (about 1 out of every 1000 animals is DOA) and put it into a shipping box for FedEx to pick up.
The time to pick threw the bags, pull a animal that we are going to try to retail, pack the bags back up, ship the babies out and not get any happy customers is not worth it. Even if there was a albino in the bag it would not be worth while.

Babies are shipped in such volume that they need to come and go before the next group arrives.
We buy specials every year in large volume so picking threw a "normal" bag is like going to a snake show with lavender albinos and pied but only putting a normal baby male on your table..not only does it make you look bad, and upset your clients but also is far from profitable.


Like them or not, c.h and wc have their place in our industry and they ll can do very well when the right care is taken with them.
So Josh you say they dont have ticks and such in Africa right? Why not explain this diseased sickly thing your trying to pawn off before it dies. http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=838513